[forsberg]

Cool story bro. Could you read it to me one more time? I especially love the part where you judge people on how they should spend their money.

 

[MosinNagantMan]

I think Beats showed that people did really want the best audio they can find, but at retail stores high end headphones in many areas are hard to find.  Then Beats came along like a train with their advertising and with a price like that, everyone thinks those are one of the top headphones you can buy.

 

[jeckyll]

+1
 
There are real problems in this world.  The fact that people "like" crappy overpriced headphones really isn't one of them.
 
Listen to what you like, enjoy it, if the opportunity presents itself, share the joy of good sound.  If not, smile knowingly and move on
 
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People on here sure do talk a lot about things that they don't like.
 
Why do you even care?

 
 

 

[liamstrain]

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As much as people bash Beats, I think they're a welcome addition to the industry.  Why?  Because people no longer think spending a few hundred dollars for headphones is crazy.  

Agreed. This is also why I appreciate Oprah's book club, and Harry Potter. Are they great books in general? Hell no. Are they getting people reading again? Hell yes. 

 

[Il Mostro]

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lol, i think you should just join the cynic club.

The Drama Club is another good option...

 

[GL1TCH3D]

I know a lot of people (including myself) who that happened to. 
 
Just the fact that people come on here and ask about Beats (which they probably wouldn't if they didn't exist) shows you that they are overall good for the audiophile community and audiophile brands. Before the Beats, not many people would have thought about spending $300+ on a pair of headphones, now everyone does. 
 


 

Then it's an interesting thought...
I see what you're saying, people will buy beats because they're "cool" and opens them up to spending more money on headphones. Unfortunately for the majority of beats users, beats are for the style and look down on other headphones no matter the quality or price.
If beats didn't exist would the situation be better or worse? Well I think it would be better... Maybe if headphone companies saw they could capture more of the headphone products with real quality then they would push their headphones more and more people would buy them. Since beats came out and captured the majority of the market (I read that like 53% of the market is owned by beats, not to mention all the fakes) and for this reason it might discourage some headphone companies from making and pushing their headphones. Though I do agree for a small portion of beats users it leads to an introduction in real headphones, doesn't happen with all users.

 

[davidgotsa]

Of course, 95% of Beats users are never gonna buy other headphones because they don't care about the quality as you said. But you also said that 53% of the market was Beats, 5% of those 53% is quite a lot. Obviously they are all made up numbers, but I think that Beats leave many people wanting more and therefore they go on to buy higher quality stuff. 
 
Anyways, enjoy your friday!
 
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Then it's an interesting thought...
I see what you're saying, people will buy beats because they're "cool" and opens them up to spending more money on headphones. Unfortunately for the majority of beats users, beats are for the style and look down on other headphones no matter the quality or price.
If beats didn't exist would the situation be better or worse? Well I think it would be better... Maybe if headphone companies saw they could capture more of the headphone products with real quality then they would push their headphones more and more people would buy them. Since beats came out and captured the majority of the market (I read that like 53% of the market is owned by beats, not to mention all the fakes) and for this reason it might discourage some headphone companies from making and pushing their headphones. Though I do agree for a small portion of beats users it leads to an introduction in real headphones, doesn't happen with all users.

 

 

[Akin]

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Cool story bro. Could you read it to me one more time? I especially love the part where you judge people on how they should spend their money.

Youre getting the wrong idea bro, I'm not judging them, in fact even did some suggestions to them so they would be more pleased. Did they listen? Well... no.

 
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It is annoying, but you have to remember that you are still in school and that is the part of your life that will be most dominated by strong, unsubstantiated opinions that center around consumer goods.  It gets better, I promise....of course then people just have strong, unsubstantiated opinions about politics that really do affect your life...so maybe not.
 
For myself, I actually got into this hobby because of beats.  I wasn't lured in by their sound quality, I didn't know there was a drastic difference between headphones at the time, I was intrigued by their build.  I picked up a pair of beats tours because it looked to me like the big red cord would hold up better during workouts.  They sounded way better than anything I had ever heard before so I started reading around.  Today, I still have the tours as lawn mowing IEMs and they are at the bottom rung of my now rather large headphone collection.  I also learned that their strain relief kind of sucks, and that was where the shorts in other workout phones usually come from anyway, and the cord is too heavy to really run with.  I would sell them for the price of a couple large pizzas, but they are so often faked that it really isn't worth the hassle.

I understand that, but what I really wonder about is that why companies like  sennheiser or beyerdynamics, or ultrasone put their 300 dolar range headphones on the shelves of bestbuy, and leave people in awe. I'm still waiting in my country to see a hd595 or sr325i on the shelves of the electronics store.
 

 

[SpeedyClaxton4]

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Youre getting the wrong idea bro, I'm not judging them, in fact even did some suggestions to them so they would be more pleased. Did they listen? Well... no.

 

I understand that, but what I really wonder about is that why companies like  sennheiser or beyerdynamics, or ultrasone put their 300 dolar range headphones on the shelves of bestbuy, and leave people in awe. I'm still waiting in my country to see a hd595 or sr325i on the shelves of the electronics store.
 

It isn't that simple, shelf space in retail stores is not easy to come by. Companies can't just will it to happen. They have to convince BestBuy it is worth it for them to carry them, and will be profitable for both. None of these companies spend the money in marketing that Beats, Bose, or even Sony do. Or I should say they don't spend it in the same demographics. They stick to markets they know are interested in their products and use their marketing budget for trade shows and other such activities that they can get more value out of. They know they aren't going to out-market Beats in the average consumer demographic, so they spend their time and money elsewhere, and wisely so.

 

[arteom]

I came in here expecting this thread to be about someone getting cancer or something. Think of it this way, you will secretly know that your headphones are better than their headphones. Step two, bring your diy headphone amp and your $450 pair of headphones, dont forget the dac, to school. Like show and tell or something. Oh and besides the dac dont forget your shades.

 

[Dubstep Girl]

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I came in here expecting this thread to be about someone getting cancer or something. Think of it this way, you will secretly know that your headphones are better than their headphones. Step two, bring your diy headphone amp and your $450 pair of headphones, dont forget the dac, to school. Like show and tell or something. Oh and besides the dac dont forget your shades.

+1

 

[nikp]

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Fyi, there's a like button to the left of the quote buttons underneath every post's signature text.
 

 

[SolomonPierce]

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Major electronics stores don't really sell high end headphones (bestbuy is changing) so people don't know what a good pair really sounds like.

In America anyway... When I was in Poland last summer I walked into a Saturn (Bestbuy type electronics retail store) and they had Sennheiser, AKG, Beyer, etc.  Americans have no idea about real audio.  I was happy enough to walk away with a pair of K540s which I never heard of before, they're pretty nice for the $100 price tag although they are a kinda flimsy Chinese made build =/
 
Still had a way more interesting headphone section than any Bestbuy I've ever been in.  BB sucks.  I went in looking to get some Senn cx250 iems once as a gift for my friend who was complaining about his apple buds, before he left on a plane trip.  The guy I asked at the store looked them up (after I had to spell Sennheiser for him) and said they had them.  He couldn't find them so he sent me to another store.  The other store said they had them too but he didn't call and let them know I was coming.  Then they couldn't find them and I went home empty handed after wasting plenty of gas.  Screw Best Buy.  Totally idiotic, they don't know what's in their store or if they think they do they can't find it???  That's ridiculous.  And the guy who had never heard of Sennheiser was the headphone "specialist" he's there every time in the headphone section.  Pathetic.

 

[Il Mostro]

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Americans have no idea about real audio.  

  

 

[SolomonPierce]

I meant generally!  I am an American myself and I know plenty of others here who appreciate their audio; however, in my experience, I've seen far more audiophiles in Europe than here in the states.  It was not uncommon to see people with a nice even occasionally rare setup over there, here on the other hand, most people's general knowledge reaches to Bose.  Unless someone really cares enough to look into audio systems seriously many people just stick with the marking and believe that Bose = Best.  This is just my experience, I didn't mean to generalize too much.  It is just a far cry from here when you see what headphones are readily available over there.  I have never seen anything beyond maybe $80? Senns in a US non-audiophile store.  That's all... Obviously if you're on this forum, you care about audio, but we're not exactly the most ubiquitous crowd in my experience.  Very rarely do I have someone over my house who can identify most if any of my cans.