[plumpudding2]

I don't feel i'm missing a lot power-wise with my FIIO m17, it gets nearly there, but it's such a brick some people refuse to call it "portable" lol.

 

[gammi]

Interesting. The G5 has basically the same power ratings as the m17 but I definitely notice it's missing some oomph when I use the G5 with the Expanse.

 

[EMINENT]

I've occasionally pulled the Diablo off the shelf to give it another listen. It really needs HQPlayer to sound other than dull now.

It's a sad state of affairs that some of us have to rely on as dependencies. This is the unfortunate reality for some though.

 

[Nomax]

There is no fast/compact oomph/sub bass in the acoustic world

NOMAX

PS.lol

 

[plumpudding2]

Interesting. The G5 has basically the same power ratings as the m17 but I definitely notice it's missing some oomph when I use the G5 with the Expanse.

L7 Audiolabs measures the G5 at around 800-900 mW as the Expanse impedance is in between 16 and 32 ohms.

M17 has around 2.25 Watts if we take the average of the 16 and 32 ohm specs (Couldn't find measurements)

I found the G5 to sound pretty good with the Stealth, but I sold it since it was unusable with iems due to the extreme EMI/RFI sensitivity (I could monitor what my phone cpu was doing in realtime)

 

[gammi]

M17 has around 2.25 Watts if we take the average of the 16 and 32 ohm specs (Couldn't find measurements)

Ah, my source on the specs was wrong and showed 1.1-1.4W

 

[Nomax]

Ah, my source on the specs was wrong and showed 1.1-1.4W

NOMAX

PS.lol

 

[Currawong]

No point in mucking around. You want a Mjolnir.

 

[AlfeedE]

…. And I also want the money for it!

 

[mrspeakers]

Hello from Vienna,
I hope that you can give me some advice - I am really interested in the DCA Expanse but I have heard that this headphone is quit power hungry. Now my equipment is the Astell & Kern SP 3000 and the PA10. Would this be a good pairing, has it enough power for a satisfying listening experience?
Thank you very much for your advice and response in advance
Kind regards
Alfred

Unfortunately it's not possible to actually answer this direclty because AK publishes only the output voltage swing for both the 3000 and PA10, but they do not specify power into differing loads. In the past I have never found any AK DAP other than the KANN to actually have enough current capability to drive planars, they seem very targetted to IEM or high Z dynamic drivers.

The PA10 has the same output voltage spec as the 3000 making me suspicious it may actually be the same amp module. My suggestion to you would be to find a portable amp to go with it or to look at a higher power DAP from FiiO or other makers who publish specs at 32ohms. The higher the better. An alternate is simply a Chord Mojo 2 connected to your phone, which has plenty of power, a solid DAC and won't bust the bank.

 

[adrianm]

An alternate is simply a Chord Mojo 2 connected to your phone, which has plenty of power, a solid DAC and won't bust the bank.

I mean..."plenty" might be overly generous here. I travel with the Mojo(albeit 1) and Stealth and...it just makes me sad compared to my main system. So much so that I would rather carry the HM1 with me and use the Mojo in dac mode (also makes me said, but I can't blame the Stealth as it's a different beast this way), or just go with Airpods Pro 2 and call it a day.

 

[TheMiddleSky]

I mean..."plenty" might be overly generous here. I travel with the Mojo(albeit 1) and Stealth and...it just makes me sad compared to my main system. So much so that I would rather carry the HM1 with me and use the Mojo in dac mode (also makes me said, but I can't blame the Stealth as it's a different beast this way), or just go with Airpods Pro 2 and call it a day.

One day, when I travel to europe, there will be a time I go to a cafe, and someone beside me set a HM1 on the table. I would love to see that haha.

 

[adrianm]

One day, when I travel to europe, there will be a time I go to a cafe, and someone beside me set a HM1 on the table. I would love to see that haha.

LMAO. My "portable" stuff is just "transportable" to another location, still listening at a desk. Airpods pro/Car speakers for anything on the move. Though I would have no problem taking the HM1 into the office. I used to travel with Sony Z1R and Mojo in my backpack every day 8-9 years ago

 

[Nomax]

I'm guessing that it's no more than 750mw-1watt @32 ohm what comes out of my Sp3000 in balanced mode

NOMAX

PS.lol

 

[Nomax]

No point in mucking around. You want a Mjolnir.

As I have received a lot of questions about how the Lotoo performs with the two flagships from DCA
I'll let you know.... is on its way to me

NOMAX

PS.lol