Chinese / Asian Brand Info Thread (Headphones, IEMs, Amps, DACs)
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Mar 19, 2014 at 12:00 PM Post #2,116 of 35,472
I tried them and oh my god soundstage detail was awesome I could even hear the conductor turning pages and the cellist silently coughing. But I don't know what happened they are not the same anymore.
I tried them out a whole day with my cellphone galaxy s4 directly at work since it ordered them directly there or I would miss the postman
I want definitely a working pair of these excellent iem and penaudio has very fast reply times to my mails.
At this price point there is just nothing comparable or is there any dual balanced armature iem or hybrid that would give similar results?

I just want to share my experience and see if anyone had same bad luck as me

For the sizzle I hooked the havi B3 pro to my rockbox'ed sansa zip clip on very low volume it's okay so far but there is no audible detail and clarity. If I turn the volume up a bit works great but for the critical parts murmur in bass and clipping in the highs... Also I didn't opened the iem yet I am still waiting a reply
If I open them I make sure to take some macro photos

So back to buying suggestion
Should I wait till the T poes h300 or dunu dn 2k drop significant in price?


In my opinion you shouldn't wait. Because it will take ages for the prices to come down....
 
Mar 19, 2014 at 1:18 PM Post #2,117 of 35,472
The Pistons are 95dB/mW, Havi B3 Pro is 115dB/mW - yet Havi needs a lot more power to reach the same volume.
Even though Pistons are 16ohm and Havi is 32ohm, I don't think this can compensate for over 20dB difference.

Which spec is wrong?
 
Mar 19, 2014 at 2:07 PM Post #2,119 of 35,472
Are these Havi B3 Pro the original version?  Cheapest yet at $61:
 
http://www.ugomark.com/item/36052562138#
 
 
 
They seem to be, because the Pro II version is only $49:
 
http://www.ugomark.com/item/35700828655
 
Mar 19, 2014 at 2:15 PM Post #2,120 of 35,472
  Are these Havi B3 Pro the original version?  Cheapest yet at $61:
 
http://www.ugomark.com/item/36052562138#
 
 
 
They seem to be, because the Pro II version is only $49:
 
http://www.ugomark.com/item/35700828655


Nah, BBO had them for $53 plus $6 shipping though just a 5 day sale price.
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My FX850 ohmage, KZ R3 are gonna be on the way. Not sure if that presale meant I would have to wait a bit for them to ship the first time but I got the email earlier today that Mistertao got the package in and I paid my second payment. 
 
Mar 19, 2014 at 2:29 PM Post #2,121 of 35,472
it seems the OLD Havi B3 Mark I is even more expensive than the newer MK II version
 
Mar 19, 2014 at 2:40 PM Post #2,122 of 35,472
  Are these Havi B3 Pro the original version?  Cheapest yet at $61:
 
http://www.ugomark.com/item/36052562138#
 
 
 
They seem to be, because the Pro II version is only $49:
 
http://www.ugomark.com/item/35700828655

Don't buy on Ugomark. In this year, their service had become hopeless. Don't carry out orders, don't respond to e-mails, just behave like some thieves.
 
Mar 19, 2014 at 2:52 PM Post #2,123 of 35,472
  The Pistons are 95dB/mW, Havi B3 Pro is 115dB/mW - yet Havi needs a lot more power to reach the same volume.
Even though Pistons are 16ohm and Havi is 32ohm, I don't think this can compensate for over 20dB difference.

Which spec is wrong?


Probably Havi's spec is wrong, since it takes as much power as a 150ohm and 95dB/mW RE-262.
 
Mar 19, 2014 at 3:46 PM Post #2,126 of 35,472
Here are the photos
I opened up the left earpiece and took some Ohms measurements
both drivers measure directly on the unit around 15,2~16
so basically they should be fine electrically
 
hm....
 

 
EDIT
Hires
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http://imageshack.com/a/img801/8097/gr63.jpg
 
Mar 19, 2014 at 3:53 PM Post #2,127 of 35,472
  Here are the photos
I opened up the left earpiece and took some Ohms measurements
both drivers measure directly on the unit around 15,2~16
so basically they should be fine electrically
 
hm....
 

You shouldn't have done that without seller's permission.
It's not like you could actually fix it anyway.
 
Mar 19, 2014 at 4:24 PM Post #2,129 of 35,472
Most likely a moisture problem.
Sometime, after a long shipping, moisture condenses inside the drivers.
 
One of the benefits of the burn-in is to warm up the drivers, causing the moisture to evaporate.
Sometimes it makes more difference than flexing the driver.
 
Also, put a few desiccant silica gel packets near it to help to accelerate the process.
 
Mar 19, 2014 at 5:33 PM Post #2,130 of 35,472
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Hm, by the looks and measurements all seem to be right, strange...

 
I cleaned them put them back together and plugged the havib3pro to my sansa clip zip with fresh material.. and left side is still ****y...
 
so I will pack them carefully now and send them back to penaudio..
 
I dont want to do this anymore, so basically these are my option:
(from penaudio)
DUNU DN1k
VSONIC GR01
VSONIC VC10000
Astrotec AX-35
SoundMAGIC PL-50
 
(another local source)
Sony XBA2IP
 
 
Quote:
  Most likely a moisture problem.
Sometime, after a long shipping, moisture condenses inside the drivers.
 
One of the benefits of the burn-in is to warm up the drivers, causing the moisture to evaporate.
Sometimes it makes more difference than flexing the driver.
 
Also, put a few desiccant silica gel packets near it to help to accelerate the process.


But right out of the box there was no problem with the HAVI B3 it evolved into it.
regarding moisture issue: there is none since the right piece works perfectly...
 
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