[alphaproject]

What I love about the DT770's is they just seem to get better with burn in. The bass gets less boomy....which I didn't mind....but it's appearing to get more accurate. The deep stuff is still astounding....sometimes even scary.

Sometimes I take them off because I think someone's making a loud racket outside or something but it's just the Beyers bass seemingly coming from nowhere.

 

[Wilashort]

Then, the DT880 05 Ed is the best option for you if you found the bass slam excessive. The DT880 has less bass slam and quantity.
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Originally Posted by mikeg88 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Okay - question for everyone... I just finished listening to 770s (250ohm) and 990s because those are the only ones I can find in Canada. Really I intended to get the 880s, but since I can't try them, can someone enlighten me as to how they compare to these other two? I found the 770's a very enjoyable sonic signature but lacking in detail and the bass sounded a bit rounded ( I suppose it IS a closed 'phone). The 990's I found had good detail, but easily enough bass to give me a headache after about 45 min at my preferred listening level, so those are a no-go for me. I'm hoping the 880's serve up the best of both worlds. My preference is probably towards strong mids, and moderate bass, with as much detail as possible while still remaining smooth (and not getting "sparkly", god forbid). Do they fit that description? Thanks, M

 

[tottiflames]

Newly joined Team Beyer~!
I have no love to DT990, but the DT48a stunned me!

 

[Skylab]

5 ohms???? Really???

I have never seen those before...

 

[upstateguy]

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Originally Posted by Skylab /img/forum/go_quote.gif 5 ohms???? Really??? I have never seen those before...

Neither have I..... wonder what they sound like?

some Beyer pics

 

[Uncle Erik]

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Originally Posted by tottiflames /img/forum/go_quote.gif Newly joined Team Beyer~! I have no love to DT990, but the DT48a stunned me!

Is that the DT48 A.00? Those appear to be the correct earcups and Beyer's site says that the drivers are color coded, except their picture is in black and white! And the A.00 really is a 5 ohm can.

Anyhow, welcome to the very, very exclusive DT48 club! Please tell us more about how the A.00 sounds. Any impressions and details would be greatly appreciated.

And it's funny, since my 25 ohm DT48 pair arrived today. I've been listening to a 200 ohm pair for a few weeks, but the 25 ohm is equally stunning. I've only been listening for a few hours, but I love them. Did a quick comparison to the DT880 and the K-701. The DT48 has it all over them in detail and natural sound.

Especially detail. I was spinning Bill Evans' "Waltz For Debby" on SACD through the Zana into the 25 ohm DT48s. That's a live recording and there's background noise from the crowd. On the other headphones, the background noise sounds like background noise. On the DT48, you can hear the conversations. Really. Just remarkable. And they're dead-nuts accurate tonally. The DT48 is grossly underappreciated around here.

 

[upstateguy]

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Originally Posted by Uncle Erik /img/forum/go_quote.gif Is that the DT48 A.00? Those appear to be the correct earcups and Beyer's site says that the drivers are color coded, except their picture is in black and white! And the A.00 really is a 5 ohm can. Anyhow, welcome to the very, very exclusive DT48 club! Please tell us more about how the A.00 sounds. Any impressions and details would be greatly appreciated. And it's funny, since my 25 ohm DT48 pair arrived today. I've been listening to a 200 ohm pair for a few weeks, but the 25 ohm is equally stunning. I've only been listening for a few hours, but I love them. Did a quick comparison to the DT880 and the K-701. The DT48 has it all over them in detail and natural sound. Especially detail. I was spinning Bill Evans' "Waltz For Debby" on SACD through the Zana into the 25 ohm DT48s. That's a live recording and there's background noise from the crowd. On the other headphones, the background noise sounds like background noise. On the DT48, you can hear the conversations. Really. Just remarkable. And they're dead-nuts accurate tonally. The DT48 is grossly underappreciated around here.

Hi

You have a 200 ohm, and a 25 ohm DT48? Wow !

What else can you tell us about that can?

What does the lowered ohm level do for the sound? I was under the impression that the 600 ohm models had the most control?

Just when I thought I was done buying for a while, I get pulled back in......

USG

d-_-b

 

[Henmyr]

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Originally Posted by Uncle Erik /img/forum/go_quote.gif Is that the DT48 A.00? Those appear to be the correct earcups and Beyer's site says that the drivers are color coded, except their picture is in black and white! And the A.00 really is a 5 ohm can. Anyhow, welcome to the very, very exclusive DT48 club! Please tell us more about how the A.00 sounds. Any impressions and details would be greatly appreciated. And it's funny, since my 25 ohm DT48 pair arrived today. I've been listening to a 200 ohm pair for a few weeks, but the 25 ohm is equally stunning. I've only been listening for a few hours, but I love them. Did a quick comparison to the DT880 and the K-701. The DT48 has it all over them in detail and natural sound. Especially detail. I was spinning Bill Evans' "Waltz For Debby" on SACD through the Zana into the 25 ohm DT48s. That's a live recording and there's background noise from the crowd. On the other headphones, the background noise sounds like background noise. On the DT48, you can hear the conversations. Really. Just remarkable. And they're dead-nuts accurate tonally. The DT48 is grossly underappreciated around here.

Would you say it's a headphone for listening to music, or is it even more analytical than DT880 and K701?

 

[upstateguy]

I found this in a thread from 2001 http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f4/bey...t48-what-2970/

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Originally Posted by huy_ha /img/forum/go_quote.gif Moo, I found a pair of these in my office, abandoned by some sound guy. I'm not sure why they're so expensive, but their major strength is apparently superb isolation. I took them home and tried them with my Creek OBH-11 and they are not very musical headphones. Oddly enough, they sound fuller using MP3. Otherwise, they were anemic in the bass department while managing to be a bit tinny at the same time. I can see how they are good for monitoring a TV broadcast, though, especially voices. I use them in my office, where I listen mainly to MP3. Forgot to add, they are heavy and metal with screws to adjust the headband. These things could survive a drop from several stories. The earpads, however, are the glue on kind and come off quite often. Very paradoxical headphones.

and this is what B&H says about them:

The Beyerdynamic DT 48 A.00 audiometric headphones are designed for use in aural-acoustical investigations and measurements by ear, nose and throat specialists, research laboratories, and educational facilities.

The closed-back headphones feature 12 dB of ambient noise attenuation. The matched transducer elements offer a low 5 Ohms of impedance per system, and are selected in pairs to achieve maximum accuracy, with a frequency response deviation of only +/-1 dB.

The supra-aural ear coupling headphones utilizes flat rubber ear caps that are easily identified by their color-coded, left/right-designated covers. All components conform to the currently accepted professional standards, and the cable is supplied bare-ended for application-specific termination.

USG

d-_-b

 

[Uncle Erik]

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Originally Posted by upstateguy /img/forum/go_quote.gif Hi You have a 200 ohm, and a 25 ohm DT48? Wow ! What else can you tell us about that can? What does the lowered ohm level do for the sound? I was under the impression that the 600 ohm models had the most control? Just when I thought I was done buying for a while, I get pulled back in...... USG d-_-b

I got lucky with the two pairs. The 200 ohm were up on eBay a few weeks back and I had them shipped over from England. They've been heavily used, but still sound good. I'm going to call Beyerdynamic and see if I can get a new headband and earpads for them. The 25 ohm pair was BIN for $75, and I could not resist, and these are minty. If anyone else is curious, here's another pair up right now:

Beyer DT 48 headphones - eBay (item 140227380604 end time May-03-08 21:49:58 PDT)

Sounds like they need a recable, but that looks to be a snap with these. The Y connector opens up and Beyerdynamic has a schematic up on their site. The way they're wired, they could be very easily converted to balanced, as well. I might do it with the 200 ohm pair, as the cord isn't long enough and could use replacing.

The difference I've heard so far is that the 25 ohm is a little crisper and sharper than the 200 ohm version. Then again, that could have to do with the worn earpads and the fact that they've had maybe 20 more years of use. They both sound good to me. I don't think there's a 600 ohm version of the DT48, but I could be wrong. The only ones I've seen are the 5 ohm A.00 version and the DT48E has 25 and 200 ohm versions. The DT48E is available from B&H here:

Beyerdynamic | DT48E - Stereo Headphones - 25 Ohms | 404306

If anyone was wondering, their special price is $305. Not bad, really. For those who love the K-501 and acoustic music, this is a great headphone. I've been listening to the 200 ohm version lots lately. Mostly classical, jazz and country/bluegrass. It excels with those, but is kinda awful with rock, just like the K-501.

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Originally Posted by Henmyr /img/forum/go_quote.gif Would you say it's a headphone for listening to music, or is it even more analytical than DT880 and K701?

The DT48 is analytical, for sure, but it is musical. I've got some Milt Jackson spinning right now, and his vibes sound incredibly natural, but I can also hear the reverb in the room and little tape drops here and there are evident. That might drive some people crazy, but I like it. Then again, I gravitate towards studio headphones - the K-1000, HP-2 and K-240DF are favorites and I'm bent on grabbing the Stax 4070 sooner or later.

Upstateguy, the pads are not glued on. They are slipped on to the aluminum driver housing. The pads on the 200 ohm one are loose, but that's because they've been stretched out from years of use. They come right off and are easily replaced. I don't know what huy_ha was listening to, but MP3s sound godawful with these - I've been spinning only black discs and Scarlet Book with these. Flaws in Red Book show up easily, especially with hot or poor mastering. Also, I don't know if the OBH-11 would be a great choice of amp. I started off with one and wasn't entirely impressed with it. The Zana is a few orders of magnitude better.

He was right about the build quality, though. The drivers sit in housings of machined aluminum and are impressive. The band is solid, as well. Build quality is comparable to the HP-1000, even. These are built to last.

I might have to hunt down the A.00 model. I'm working on a comprehensive review of the DT48 - no one has done one and it was the first stereo hi-fi headphone, after all. And they sound pretty good, too.

 

[Matias]

Hi folks, I'm newbie here. Read all 64 pages of this thread. That's my rig:

I use them with a Benchmark DAC1 USB, as you can see. I consider myself an audiophile. I focus on detail, dynamics, soundstage, tonal balance... all the pure reproduction of a live accoustic event. But cans are not my main focus, my primary interest is in speakers. I don't know much about cans.

I've burned my DT770 edition 2005 (250 ohm) for about 100 hours, AFTER the original owner. Here's my 2 cents: these are good cans, but nowhere near perfection.

Bass is OK, it was louder first (actually very loud sub-bass), but I think they calmed down after burning in to pleasing levels. Still slightly louder than necessary, but OK. Mids are very good, detailed, clear, pleasing too.

The thing that's anoying me is this treble peak near 7kHz. I have a tone generator software here and I can choose frequencies and sweep freely. Found that the anoying treble is around 7 - 7,5kHz. All cymbals sound exagerated, hi-hat is clearly on top of things. Sure, I saw the frequency response curves:

By the graphs, the other Beyers don't do any better, even the supposed "flat neutral" 880s I was thinking about to replace these.

I've tried these cans on the CIAudio VHP-1 + VAC-1 and tonal balance changed very little: strong bass, 7kHz peak.

[size=medium]Is there any recabling that solves this?[/size]

Thanks!

 

[Nihility]

i LOVE my 880 pros, i listen to everything with them (im mainly a death metal head) and feeling the kick drums while still having every bit of clarity in the vocals and guitar is just amazing! i also listen to a lot of drum/bass, techno, hardcore, etc (pendulum, masters of hardcore, wagon christ, the like)

 

[Wilashort]

Maybe..., maybe the Mogami cable or the Apuresound V3 as possibles candidates....
I want the impressions of others here that has recabled his headphones (DT770, DT990 Ed 2005 (in it i want more extension but without harshness with music, better image and separation and a little bit more mids and soundstage/headstage)) with this cables (or maybe others), if them care to share impressions...
I am pleased how sound my DT990 (when i use the right amount of CMSS 3D and cristalizer to low level and when i put it in the right position in my head) but i want the best for them (to perfect them)
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Originally Posted by Matias /img/forum/go_quote.gif Hi folks, I'm newbie here. Read all 64 pages of this thread. That's my rig: I use them with a Benchmark DAC1 USB, as you can see. I consider myself an audiophile. I focus on detail, dynamics, soundstage, tonal balance... all the pure reproduction of a live accoustic event. But cans are not my main focus, my primary interest is in speakers. I don't know much about cans. I've burned my DT770 edition 2005 (250 ohm) for about 100 hours, AFTER the original owner. Here's my 2 cents: these are good cans, but nowhere near perfection. Bass is OK, it was louder first (actually very loud sub-bass), but I think they calmed down after burning in to pleasing levels. Still slightly louder than necessary, but OK. Mids are very good, detailed, clear, pleasing too. The thing that's anoying me is this treble peak near 7kHz. I have a tone generator software here and I can choose frequencies and sweep freely. Found that the anoying treble is around 7 - 7,5kHz. All cymbals sound exagerated, hi-hat is clearly on top of things. Sure, I saw the frequency response curves: By the graphs, the other Beyers don't do any better, even the supposed "flat neutral" 880s I was thinking about to replace these. I've tried these cans on the CIAudio VHP-1 + VAC-1 and tonal balance changed very little: strong bass, 7kHz peak. [size=medium]Is there any recabling that solves this?[/size] Thanks!

 

[Matias]

Any experience with Zobel networks? It is said to "tame" those peaks.

 

[Spyre]

Hey guys

I'm a 100% newbie here and I have a question. I am looking at buying the DT880 as my first serious headphone. It is my understanding that the 880 is normally a 250ohm phone, but if you go to the manufacturer's website you can customize it to 32ohm. I am looking for a low impedance headphone that I can use with a portable player without an amp.

From what I've read here, there are many versions of the 880 (pro, premium, 2003, 2005, etc?). The beyerdynamic website does not list all the different kinds, so I am a little confused about the complete offerings and I was hoping somebody could help clear this up for me.

Is there any standard 32ohm set of headphones, or are they all 250ohm? The cost of importing a custom 880 from beyerdynamic.com is double the price of the standard version on amazon or ebay. Alternatively, are there any vendors that sell a 32 ohm custom version or can I only get that direct from beyer?


Another question: Would the 32ohm custom 880 have the same sonics as the normal 250ohm? I assumed it does, but the more I think about it the less I am convinced it would...