Beyerdynamic DT-1770: Product Info, Discussion and Impressions

Sep 28, 2015 at 3:52 PM Post #601 of 3,712
The DT1770 responds very good to the Fiio E12 bass boost. So there is some sub bass capability.
 
Sep 28, 2015 at 4:39 PM Post #602 of 3,712
Quick and dirty: T5p doesn't have as much bass presence nor punch as these (DT1770). But what the T5p lacks in bass, has in mids and a less "hollow-ish" sound which I've been hearing on the 1770s. T5p's sounds more boosted up top but it's probably due to lack of bass being present. Overall in comparison, 1770s are warmer.

SRH1540 was almost basshead cans to me!. Good mids and very good imaging but a bit too much mid-bass. Right now I don't find the 1770 as bassy or warm as the 1540s. Something that surprised me on the 1540s is they they almost had the "V-Moda" approach to "tame" the treble (from 4khz or so). Maybe not as exaggerated, but to my ears the 1540s lacked "life", lacked air. The DT1770 although capable in the bass department, it is definitely NOT as "muted" up-top as the 1540s. So I guess it would be a "preference" thing. Both come with lots of accessories, extra pads, and both are comfortable, etc. The 1540s can be found at a way lower price though... both are enjoyable. One thing that made me sell my 1540s was... leakage!!!!! The 1540s leaked quite a lot at decent volume levels. My test is always at work since it's a cubicle environment. If someone can listen to my tracks, that headphone failed...

And I'm sorry to say that... at least with the velour pads on, the DT1770s seem to be suffering the same fate! :(
I was just asked if I was listening to "Merengue" (tropical Latin America music) by a co-worker!!!
(and yes I was... she could hear the trumpets and sax playing!).

:(

It might be due what I guess are the bass ports.

Thing is that these call for a bit of volume, and when applied, leak! Oh well... will keep on testing.
Right now: Sony NWZ A17 (no audio settings enabled -- no clear bass, no eq, no nothing) --> Schitt Magni


That may make me check out as well. I already have the ZMF Omni and they leak but have my ideal balance. Even my hrm7s leak... Dang it.

Are these in the same class technically as the 1540? Or how's about the Pandora Hope VI or alpha dogs?
 
Sep 28, 2015 at 6:17 PM Post #603 of 3,712
  And I'm sorry to say that... at least with the velour pads on, the DT1770s seem to be suffering the same fate! :(
I was just asked if I was listening to "Merengue" (tropical Latin America music) by a co-worker!!!
(and yes I was... she could hear the trumpets and sax playing!).
 
:(
 
It might be due what I guess are the bass ports.
 
Thing is that these call for a bit of volume, and when applied, leak! Oh well... will keep on testing.
Right now: Sony NWZ A17 (no audio settings enabled -- no clear bass, no eq, no nothing) --> Schitt Magni

Wearing the pleather earpads with the dt1770s should give you a better seal causing less leakage, but will change how the headphones sound overall making the lower frequencies louder. To combat the increase in base you could block off your baseports either fully or partially depending on where you like them to be adjusted, and by doing so you would also be lessening the sound leakage once again. You have nothing to lose by testing out some of your own modifications if they are reversible, so it's really a win/win situation.
 
Sep 28, 2015 at 9:23 PM Post #605 of 3,712
That may make me check out as well. I already have the ZMF Omni and they leak but have my ideal balance. Even my hrm7s leak... Dang it.

Are these in the same class technically as the 1540? Or how's about the Pandora Hope VI or alpha dogs?

 
I'm actually preferring them over the 1540 at least at the moment.
Sound doesn't seem too closed in, layering/separation is actually good, and I don't find them ear piercing either. Need to test more tracks to compare details though.
 
  Wearing the pleather earpads with the dt1770s should give you a better seal causing less leakage, but will change how the headphones sound overall making the lower frequencies louder. To combat the increase in base you could block off your baseports either fully or partially depending on where you like them to be adjusted, and by doing so you would also be lessening the sound leakage once again. You have nothing to lose by testing out some of your own modifications if they are reversible, so it's really a win/win situation.

 
We'll see if the leather pads help a bit (probably not but, will check). And yeah, won't do any mods yet. Maybe after I send them to the guys for measurements and stuff ;)
 
Sep 28, 2015 at 11:14 PM Post #606 of 3,712
 
We'll see if the leather pads help a bit (probably not but, will check). And yeah, won't do any mods yet. Maybe after I send them to the guys for measurements and stuff ;)

Do you not like the earpads? Is because they are synthetic or is it because the foam is too harsh? If so, then I'd recommend you these beyerdynamic real leather earpads with memory foam: http://www.beyerdynamic.de/shop/hah/spareparts/edt-800-ls.html or http://www.beyerdynamic.de/shop/hah/spareparts/edt-800-lb.html
 
Sep 28, 2015 at 11:25 PM Post #607 of 3,712
Can anyone compare the DT-1770 to the Audeze EL-8 Closed? They seem to be the top 2 competitors in the under $1k closed market. I know that the EL-8 has an excellent seal (others can't hear anything when they're on your head) so that's a big plus in their favor if the DT-1770 does indeed leak some sound.
 
Sep 29, 2015 at 1:31 AM Post #608 of 3,712
Watch out Audeze lovers, there's a fresh out LCD-4 entering the stratosphere. Search around and you may find I'm not bluffing. 
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... now that would be a milestone if the 1770 is tested to sound better
 
Sep 29, 2015 at 1:51 AM Post #610 of 3,712
Leakage = deal breaker for me. Pity.

That's been confirmed to happen with the velour pads. I still haven't heard from anyone if the same issue happens with the leather ones.
 
Sep 29, 2015 at 8:30 AM Post #611 of 3,712
  Do you not like the earpads? Is because they are synthetic or is it because the foam is too harsh? If so, then I'd recommend you these beyerdynamic real leather earpads with memory foam: http://www.beyerdynamic.de/shop/hah/spareparts/edt-800-ls.html or http://www.beyerdynamic.de/shop/hah/spareparts/edt-800-lb.html

 
I like the ear pads fine. ;)
Just haven't tested them.
 
Sep 29, 2015 at 9:45 AM Post #612 of 3,712
A few things. I had the Shure SRH1540. They had good mids, not scooped, but more highs than I liked and nice boosted bass that made them seem so. They just didn't have the full midrange warmth I like, ultimately they had to go. I had tried the EL8 Open and Closed (along with all the other Audeze) and got a pretty good idea of what you could expect.

Open LCD series blows them away of course. EL8 open, while not as refined as closed LCD, had a better signature, as do all Audeze open vs. closed. Their closed overcompensate for an expected bass boost caused by the standing waves in that design, and have a peak or peaks in the high mids and highs that make them strident in a way the open are not.

So the EL8 closed finishes last, followed by closed LCD, then open EL8, and open LCD series wins. As far as DT1770 leakage, I read someone saying pleather pads blocked outside sound better than the Bose Quiet Comfort 25. That is impressive. The ports could possibly leak bass, I'm not sure if that would be problematic, or if they leak more than just bass.
 
Sep 29, 2015 at 10:55 AM Post #613 of 3,712
Wow...
It's either the 1770 and the 1540 has some terrible leaking going, or the optimal volume for you guys is way too high.
Open headphones are usually inaudible for me at around 3 ~ 5 feet in a really quiet school lounge.
 
Sep 29, 2015 at 11:40 AM Post #614 of 3,712
Wow...
It's either the 1770 and the 1540 has some terrible leaking going, or the optimal volume for you guys is way too high.
Open headphones are usually inaudible for me at around 3 ~ 5 feet in a really quiet school lounge.

In my case, when I listen at my comfortable level, you need to get as close as 10 cm(4inch) to be able to listen to what I am listening to. And you catch only a very little noise. This is when using the velour pads.
 

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