[Tachyon88]

What's the number to be considered as low THD in bass?

Meze Elite produce THD 0,03% or below for bass section (and entire spectrum actually), and I think most people don't categorise them as lack in bass quantity.

That is because Elite has more energy in the 125hz to 375hz region.

 

[alxw0w]

Empys and Elite has whole bass, mid bass and lower midrange elevated.
Everything on them sounds unnaturally bold/muddy.
For some folks it could be fun, but don't call it transparent.

 

[TheMiddleSky]

So in short, THD number has no correlation with the amount of bass.

 

[alxw0w]

In Empyrean case probably not. In other headphones... I don't know, don't own measuring rig and many headphones to make my own conclusions, on the other hand I don't see a reason why not to believe to Dan on his findings.
To some extent it definitely has

 

[chargedcapacitor]

So in short, THD number has no correlation with the amount of bass.

Second order harmonics in the bass region can produce more impactful bass on some bass shy headphones. This info is per Sennheiser, which is why the HD800S has overall more bass distortion than the HD800, but the HD800 has more 3rd harmonic distortion than the HD800S. So the bass on the HD800S sounds quite a bit more impactful than the HD800 bass. This could be the concept being discussed, but I do not know if it applies to planar headphones with linear bass, and completely different mechanical specifications.

 

[Currawong]

In Empyrean case probably not. In other headphones... I don't know, don't own measuring rig and many headphones to make my own conclusions, on the other hand I don't see a reason why not to believe to Dan on his findings.
To some extent it definitely has

Don't forget that each manufacturer has different goals in mind in their designs, so any design is only "wrong" if it doesn't meet those goals. But, most importantly, we can choose which of those goals, and subsequently headphones, meets our own listening criteria.

Now that we have both a variety of excellent equipment available, and a good understanding of what to look for, we can balance both the type of tuning we like in headphones, with the amount of extra even-order harmonics we like in audio electronics, to find the perfect match for our preferences.

 

[alxw0w]

Don't forget that each manufacturer has different goals in mind in their designs, so any design is only "wrong" if it doesn't meet those goals. But, most importantly, we can choose which of those goals, and subsequently headphones, meets our own listening criteria.

Now that we have both a variety of excellent equipment available, and a good understanding of what to look for, we can balance both the type of tuning we like in headphones, with the amount of extra even-order harmonics we like in audio electronics, to find the perfect match for our preferences.

Of course, at the end our listening is the most important.
The problem is our ear and mind many times can play tricks on us
And some reference point is highly needed.

 

[BowWazoo]

What's the number to be considered as low THD in bass?

Meze Elite produce THD 0,03% or below for bass section (and entire spectrum actually), and I think most people don't categorise them as lack in bass quantity.

The question is: at what volume?

The Liric is 0.05% @94db.
Above 100 db clearly descending.

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...eze-liric-review-closed-back-headphone.29404/

I can well imagine that people perceive the Elite as "satisfactory" in the bass.
In the upper bass there is an extra boost.

https://www.reddit.com/r/oratory1990/wiki/index/list_of_presets

For me this tuning would be nothing.
To be honest I find the frequency response creepy between 20-500hz...

 

[Currawong]

It's a good idea to at least post the link to where measurements were obtained. They should never been seen as an absolute representation, as different rigs will produce different results, and an FR graph only provides a relatively small amount of data about a headphone.

 

[BowWazoo]

What's going on in the classified?
Have all Lcd-5 owners agreed to sell?

 

[nwavesailor]

Other shiny objects out there I suppose I'm keeping mine.

 

[Ciggavelli]

What's going on in the classified?
Have all Lcd-5 owners agreed to sell?

I counted 11 for sale

 

[Trance_Gott]

What's going on in the classified?
Have all Lcd-5 owners agreed to sell?

They didn't hear them with EQ

 

[chargedcapacitor]

Like I've said several times before, lots of owners who love their LCD-4/zs want the upgraded Audeze and still want that house sound, but get blind sided by a headphone with actual mid presence. That or they are moving on to the Susvara / 1266.

 

[BowWazoo]

Well, most of them don't do that with other headphones either.

Today, 3 weeks ago my LCD 5, was delivered to Audeze.
I hope the repair god is merciful, and let mine be finished soon...