Android phones and USB DACs
Jan 13, 2016 at 1:11 PM Post #7,741 of 9,526
   
Copied my post from Mojo thread:
 
Super happy with my super cheap transport stacked with my Mojo using the slimmer dual lock. 
 
I purchased this Sprint Moto E 2nd Gen with a microsd slot. It has NATIVE Android USB audio so you don't need UAPP to listen from the Mojo. Google Music works just perfectly like on my Nexus 6. It's on sale right now too for $39.99 shipped:
 
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sprint-prepaid-motorola-moto-e-4g-with-8gb-memory-no-contract-cell-phone-black/2729581.p?acampID=0&ref=8575135&loc=0
 
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Would the widely hyped $5 VE Monk pair well with the Chord Mojo / $39.99 Motorola Moto E LTE?
http://www.head-fi.org/t/783669/venture-electronics-ve-monk-a-5-earbud-that-seriously-deserves-a-place-here
http://www.head-fi.org/products/venture-electronics-ve-monk/reviews/14278
 
Jan 13, 2016 at 7:16 PM Post #7,742 of 9,526
Hi
Iam bit new to this DAC related stuff. So can you pls help me to clarify this.

I have samsung S5 and ak100. And i am plan to buy Chord mojo as well. Lets say if connect new chord mojo to S5 and play some flac songs and next time i connect ak100 to chord mojo and play exactly same audio file as previous is there any sound difference?
In other words what iam asking is depending the sourse we connect to chord mojo is there any sound difference?
Or what evere sourse we connect chord mojo it will out put its own sound signature?

Pls explan to me.

Thanks so much....
 
Jan 13, 2016 at 11:08 PM Post #7,743 of 9,526
Hi
Iam bit new to this DAC related stuff. So can you pls help me to clarify this.

I have samsung S5 and ak100. And i am plan to buy Chord mojo as well. Lets say if connect new chord mojo to S5 and play some flac songs and next time i connect ak100 to chord mojo and play exactly same audio file as previous is there any sound difference?
In other words what iam asking is depending the sourse we connect to chord mojo is there any sound difference?
Or what evere sourse we connect chord mojo it will out put its own sound signature?

Pls explan to me.

Thanks so much....

 
The difference is you will be running your Galaxy S5 via USB to Mojo and AK100 via optical out.
 
I have personally heard differences using different Galaxy phones, the available apps and other sources optical output to my dac amps, though much of the time it hasn't been a completely night and day difference. The best person to answer your question is you. Try them both and see which you preffer. 
 
I know many of the longer term members are using AK100's as transports for Mojo, maybe you may want to stick with that as the size of both AK100 and Mojo are very close. If you want a short optical cable for that setup ask in the Mojo thread.
 
Jan 14, 2016 at 1:25 AM Post #7,744 of 9,526
Hi
Iam bit new to this DAC related stuff. So can you pls help me to clarify this.

I have samsung S5 and ak100. And i am plan to buy Chord mojo as well. Lets say if connect new chord mojo to S5 and play some flac songs and next time i connect ak100 to chord mojo and play exactly same audio file as previous is there any sound difference?
In other words what iam asking is depending the sourse we connect to chord mojo is there any sound difference?
Or what evere sourse we connect chord mojo it will out put its own sound signature?

Pls explan to me.

Thanks so much....

 
Zero difference.
 
The S5 or ak100 are slaves or hosts and their job is to pass the binary data to the Mojo which does have it's own sound and it applies that with it's DAC and powers it by itself.
 
The item was advertised by the company as (if you choose) turning your phone into a high end audio device. The co creator has noted at least once that it makes no difference what host you use. It's job  (slave/host) is just a storage device with an interface that you desire, ak, S5,X5, DX80 etc etc.
 
Jan 14, 2016 at 2:05 AM Post #7,745 of 9,526
I can't confirm that, I only own 64gb cards. Sorry. 
 
Jan 14, 2016 at 10:11 AM Post #7,746 of 9,526
Just got my Ibasso D14 and I have problem. 
I use LG G2 with it. Yesterday I tried my old Fiio E10 with my phone and it worked great out of Onkyo HF player. Today I connected my Ibasso to my phone and no sound from Onkyo. With standard player that comes with ROM everything works fine. Then downloaded Hibymusic player app, and also no sound. Anyone got a clue? Otherwise very happy with this little device. Does not sound bad with my HD800.
 
Jan 15, 2016 at 1:26 AM Post #7,748 of 9,526
  Just got my Ibasso D14 and I have problem. 
I use LG G2 with it. Yesterday I tried my old Fiio E10 with my phone and it worked great out of Onkyo HF player. Today I connected my Ibasso to my phone and no sound from Onkyo. With standard player that comes with ROM everything works fine. Then downloaded Hibymusic player app, and also no sound. Anyone got a clue? Otherwise very happy with this little device. Does not sound bad with my HD800.

The rom was 5.1.1.
I upgraded to 6.0.1 yesterday (custom rom) and now it won't work at all through usb. Line in/out works fine. I enabled USB audio from developer options, but still nothing. 
 
Jan 15, 2016 at 4:33 AM Post #7,749 of 9,526
What cheap Android phones are people using as transports? That Moto deal from a couple days ago sure sounded good.

 
I reckon that is about the best option for a modern phone.
 
I would still rate a good second-hand Galaxy S3 highly. Coupled with the Anker 7200 mAh battery it can last up to a week between charges (although it does make for a heavy stack).
 
Jan 15, 2016 at 4:43 AM Post #7,750 of 9,526
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What cheap Android phones are people using as transports? That Moto deal from a couple days ago sure sounded good.

 
Note3, and on a horizontal dock, it's kind of like a Squeezebox. It's feeding a D-Zero which feeds the DAC via line out - the HP101's USB DAC requires a Windows/Mac driver. In any case, if you're planning on using it desktop, try to go for any used unit that has sync docks available for it (unless you can use a 3D printer) as keeping it upright like that helps with the ergonomics. If anything, some docks tend to be too light (especially if the phone fits with a case on), so some Blutack on it will help. I used those with my S3 but this time I just use the S-Pen.
 
If however you find something new but cheap that has sync docks available for it, go for it.
 

 
Jan 15, 2016 at 9:07 AM Post #7,751 of 9,526
 
  Just got my Ibasso D14 and I have problem. 
I use LG G2 with it. Yesterday I tried my old Fiio E10 with my phone and it worked great out of Onkyo HF player. Today I connected my Ibasso to my phone and no sound from Onkyo. With standard player that comes with ROM everything works fine. Then downloaded Hibymusic player app, and also no sound. Anyone got a clue? Otherwise very happy with this little device. Does not sound bad with my HD800.

The rom was 5.1.1.
I upgraded to 6.0.1 yesterday (custom rom) and now it won't work at all through usb. Line in/out works fine. I enabled USB audio from developer options, but still nothing. 

That Custom rom is the culprit. Many of them have no support for USB-Audio. go back to 5.1.1 and you are good to go. 
 
Jan 15, 2016 at 12:53 PM Post #7,752 of 9,526
Looking for a source for my Chord Mojo here in Dublin.
I am looking for and Android 5.0 at least with microSD slot up to 200Gb.
 
Any advise for something near 50€? If you have a link I will be very happy!
 
Jan 15, 2016 at 1:46 PM Post #7,753 of 9,526
i am looking for high end quality cales

1- 3.5 mm to 3.5 mm cable short angled cable ( 10 cm in total length including the connectors )- braided
2- micro usb to micro usb otg braided 10 cm including angeled connectors
 
Jan 15, 2016 at 8:09 PM Post #7,755 of 9,526
I have a centrance dacport lx with is supposably a dacport (dac/amp) but without the dac section. 
However after doing some research, the dacport lx does actually contain the same amp inside but is buffered. 
So from my laptop windows 7 or my android lg g3 phone with my headphones directly plug without an amp, the buffered amp section of the dacport lx is automatically on max and so with the absence of a volume control, is adjusted via the digital control on the laptop /android device.
Howeve with the dacport lx connected to a headphones amp, the same digital control is present that effects the volume the same way.
So how do I know for sure that the amp connected to the dacport lx is not just double amping the buffered amp section of the dacport lx instead of completely bypassing the amp section.
I am using the usb audio player pro because my lg g3 doesn't support usb otg native.  
 

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