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Android phones and USB DACs

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by nztechfreak, Feb 9, 2012.
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  1. NZtechfreak
    64gb Mate 8 finally tracking now, should be here Monday. Going to be so disappointed if they haven't resolved the USB audio issues I had on the P8Max/Kirin 935 SoC.
  2. shuto77
    What micro usb to micro usb otg cable do you guys recommend from Amazon (US), preferably?
  3. willywill
    Amazon got schiit Ebay is your best friend, this one has a right angle on both side so it won't stick out that much
  4. shuto77
  5. NZtechfreak
    Mate 8 arrived today, happily USB audio is working well, which is just as well, as that was the deal-breaker with the P8Max. Mate 8 --> Chord Mojo --> MrSpeakers Ether C sounding too good. I got the 64gb Mate 8 to use with my 200gb card, but 128gb internal storage version also available for audiophiles looking to carry even more aboard their phone-as-transport.
  6. H20Fidelity Contributor
    Is there any general consensus on which Android phone is relatively cheap (used) and supports OTG (for USB audio out). What options would one consider if they wanted to pick up a smartphone dedicated for this purpose and nothing else?
    Surely as this threads grown to such size we have an idea what's cheap can be purchased used and works well?
  7. NZtechfreak

    Define cheap? Agree, must be some options. I've not seen confirmation that the Zenfone 2 supports usb audio, that'd be a reasonable candidate if it did. The Xiaomi Note 3 I think has an SD slot, again, if it works a good candidate there. Secondhand the LG G4 can be had at pretty good prices, it works. The Note 4 secondhand also a solid option, but probably getting a bit pricier there.
  8. oldmate
    Depends what you mean by cheap. I would recommend the Galaxy S3 used from say eBay. I use mine as a dedicated source after being upgraded by my carrier. I was going to sell it as I usually do with upgraded handsets but decided jump on this train.
    I have rooted it, uninstalled everything except the necessary using titanium backup pro and I am very happy with the performance of it as a source. The only drawback is according to specs is it only supports up to 64Gb MicroSD but not sure if anybody has tested any higher capacity cards. In addition it's not slated for any updates after Android 4.3 AFAIK.
    I have tested it with UAPPro, Hiby and Onkyo and they all worked flawlessly though now I only use UAPPro as it supports Tidal. I have never had any issues with it connecting to my oppo or my 4 year old iBasso D6 which was a pleasant surprise.
    Edit: Just looked on XDA Forums and it does support 128gb FAT32.
  9. H20Fidelity Contributor
    I think between $150 - $200, we need to keep things realistic.
    Something which can be purchased on eBay second hand. I have used the Galaxy S3 and its a great option however have you tried it with many other dac/amps oldmate? I have had some flawsess sucess with some dac/amps using the S3 but others have been problematic.
    Unfortunately the dac/amp I want to use (Tralucent DacAmp One) is one which causes glitches with Galaxy S3. Galaxy S4 however has been the most compatible smartphone I have tried to run natively without the help of any apps, just its price is right on the border of our set budget. Used, they're around $200 AUD, however for US residents that might be the best option.
    Note 3 seems to (so far) work natively without a problem, but the idea of this search is to find something cheap which supports OTG and can be strapped to a dac/amp, ultimately create a full portable rig. I DO think as oldmate mentioned Galaxy S3 is probably the best contender in size and pricing, I"m just not sure on its complete compatibility.
  10. oldmate
    When you say natively you mean within the android framework right and using the stock music player. I take it this is for your tralucent.
  11. H20Fidelity Contributor
    Yes, without the help of any apps is what I meant.
    Its not a priority in my situation, if we can settle on a player that needs USB Audio Player Pro to run, that's not a problem. (I would just be playing FLAC files)
  12. NZtechfreak
    Regards S3 and microSD size - it'll work with 200gb cards formatted to Fat32 also.

    Regards working with a wide variety of DACs natively without UAPP or similar, I think pre-Note 3 you might be struggling.

    Someone needs to buy a Zenfone 2 and/or Xiaomi Note 3 I think!
  13. oldmate
    Stand by. I'm going to test the S3 with a stock android app which will be Poweramp. I uninstalled the stock player.
  14. NZtechfreak
    (I might pick up a Xiaomi Note 3 out of curiosity when I sell some other gear, obviously will report back if so)
  15. H20Fidelity Contributor
    I have had my S3 working with Cozoy Aegis and Astrapi natively, so its quite user-friendly. (I think it was ok with HA-2 as well?) Just my dac/amp (the Tralucent) is slightly problematic, I did have it working with Hiby (Galaxy S3) but it crashed after a few tests. USB Audio Player Pro would freeze and require a reset.
    S4 however never missed a beat with the Tralucent DAC, not one crash (but I sold my Galaxy S4) 
    Anyway, if other members think they have a good option of cheap smartphone fire away. 
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