Most of the true, thudding bass that we "hear" is actually felt by the body and interpreted as sound by our brains. . . to the point that some companies have made "sub-amps" that don't actually emit sound but instead you bolt them to the frame of your car and they vibrate. A passenger in the car...

Quote: Originally Posted by Golden Monkey I think the differences in cabling are so minute that they don't justify the exorbitant costs that some manufacturers ask, and it certainly doesn't merit the "your everything will be a million times better!" claims they make. Beyond the...

Quote: Originally Posted by Rico67 so i have more time to give you my first impressions. it's the first time i'm listen silver cables. So i compare jumbo x cryo sylver cable with jumbo copper cables : Silver : more deeper bass,detail, soundstage, dynamique, more open aera...

Quote: Originally Posted by Know Talent We talk about the ranges of human hearing but what about accuracy and precision based upon variables such as relative humidity, room sound reflections, listening volumes, the effect of cummulative SPL eardrum is subjected to prior to a listening...

Quote: Originally Posted by TopPop You know, what I really find funny about these kinds of discussions is that, while appearing to be scientifically based, they don't seem to adhere to scientific tradition much at all. You can never "prove" that something exists. That's not where the...

Quote: Originally Posted by TopPop Well, to take a very recent example, I'm currently trying to find some new analog IC's to go between my DAC and headphone amp. I came to the conclusion that I need a new set, because after many listening trials with the few pairs that I currently own...

Quote: Originally Posted by oicdn There's something to be said about DBT though. Much like wine connoisseurs, many people think it's all garbage. "Cheap wine tastes and smells the same", etc. So, I'm curious as a sense is subjective. Is there any way to "neutralize" your hearing...

Quote: Originally Posted by mojo To be honest there is probably more variable in impedance from headphone to headphone due to manufacturing than between types of cable. Exactly. The amounts of difference here are so freaking small that they are about as valid as the millimeters to...

Quote: Originally Posted by Uncle Erik Further, no one has ever been able to demonstrate a benefit. Not even the manufacturers offer anything to back their claims. It's rather amazing, isn't it? Quote: Originally Posted by FallenAngel Yeah, it's really hard to "back...

Quote: Originally Posted by oicdn He said think of things such as how a pitcher throws a curveball, breaking ball or screw ball. Scientifically speaking, the threads should not have THAT much impact on the direction or attitude of the ball. However, any baseball player will tell you...

Quote: Originally Posted by edstrelow I'd be more impressed with you claims if you stated in your profile what your equipment is. I actually find that one of the more irritating and tacky aspects of this forum. Quote: Originally Posted by edstrelow I used to work...

Amazing that they promised this test/report that was going to prove their claims for once and for all . . . and now not only has the test/report gone missing in action but they disappear as well? No, that doesn't look shady at all!

Quote: Originally Posted by monolith When you say you've heard differences do you mean that you changed some cables around and perceived a difference, or compared them in rigorous conditions to say for sure whether you heard a difference? Exactly. I once again have to relate the...

Why are people even talking to this guy still? He's so clueless that he doesn't even know it . . . and refuses to believe anything that doesn't fit his his completely unscientific "feelings" about the subject. You're arguing calculus with someone who doesn't yet understand basic multiplication.

Quote: Originally Posted by aaron313 So, this is mostly applicable to all those fancy new portable amps with DAC options. Since all the electronics are on the same board, that means no IC. Does this not mean we have a purer representation of the DAC? Are you being serious...

Quote: Originally Posted by WindowsX I smell ppl who can't accept hearing different hi-end cables and high frequency sound..... Really, if you can hear 25khz, you need to contact the Guinness Book of World Records. There's money in it for you.

I'm surprised Monster Cable hasn't sued all these other companies that have ripped off their idea of ripping off consumers by making outrageous claims about the cables and then letting people fool themselves into believing it.

Quote: Originally Posted by dosquito Just curious - why is that ridiculous? It seems like it should work to me so long as my sound card + headphones are capable of playing those frequencies. Because you're trusting three sources that are not certified as accurate. The tones, the...

Quote: Originally Posted by Budgie It's not that I "believe" BJC, it's that I agree. There is nothing magical or mystical (or even difficult) about understanding how to get 120/220 vac at one frequency (50 or 60 hz usually) to travel up three or four feet (one or two meters) of copper...

Quote: Originally Posted by dosquito Very interesting. According to that site (i downloaded teh zip file with all of the tones) I can hear all of the range from 20-20k. that seems pretty unlikely, although I am only 16, have pretty good hearing, and don't go to any superloud...

Quote: Originally Posted by WindowsX Test Tones (20-20khz) Can you hear up to 20khz? No? lol You need to learn a lot more about the human ear, playback devices and speakers. I'm being very serious here. If you can hear 25khz, you can be in the guinness book of world records...

I like tube design stuff a lot . . . specifically because it ADDS color to sound. Oh yeah, I meant pre-amps for recording though. Don't know why I'd want a tube amp to play finished music back at me.

Quote: Originally Posted by Golden Monkey I think your ears are snakeoil...what are you, some weird sort of alien/cricket/hummingbird/bat/porpoise/human hybrid? I'm telling you, there's no way you can hear 25khz...normal human ears just are not designed that way. You still have not...

Quote: Originally Posted by bigshot Piezoelectric tweeters supposedly go that high. Not that it would make music sound any better... See ya Steve Do they go that high accurately? As in you could play a 25khz sine and it would produce solely that? I find such claims highly...

Quote: Originally Posted by WindowsX have you tried how much frequency you can hear? mine is about 25khz. Sorry, you can't hear 25khz. What you're hearing is speakers generating noise much lower in frequency because speakers aren't all that perfect. Quote: Originally...