After some testing I can comfirm, for my part at least, the update is NOT gapless with WMA lossless. So far, it plays back my music gaplessly about 80% of the time, while the rest of the time it either is a very slight snap or clip sort of gap (almost unnoticable). All my music was ripped using...

I don't mean to hijack this thread, but this is somewhat on topic. Last week I bought a JBL Radial speaker system for my iPod on eBay. However, it hasn't shipped and the seller appeared to be having lots of complaints judging by their feedback. I tried to contact the seller and figure out what...

I am currently trying to sell my 40Gb Zen Touch, its in near mint condition. Any interest?

I would love to see more hands-on info about the S series as well. Its nice to see more 60gig players coming out, since the next player I buy has to be that large. I hope the Vision M ends up coming out in 60gig too, that player seems top gear.

I guess that putty thing would work, but really, just try not to drop it.

Yeah, mine scrollwheel broke as well, one good drop on a kitchen floor did the trick. Im getting a new one and will definitly be treating that thing like a newborn. There simply isnt another DAP out there thats such a joy to use. Oh, and another thing, since the Karma has dual interface controls...

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Hehe you could get the NBJ3 and then you would have 2 (?!) line outs.

Hehe you could get the NBJ3 and then you would have 2 (?!) line outs.

Wait, whats this now? You want Creative to turn the headphone jack into a line out?

Im pretty sure that NBJ3 hard drive can be replaced with a 20/40/60, since its a 2.5" drive (at least thats my guess, that player was a big boy). Maybe not the 60 though, since that prolly has a dual plattar. Someone on this board will know for sure.

The USB does come with a plastic cover (very small and black), and your pins sure got bent alright. But you might be able to get them back into place and still get the cable to connect, I have had to do something like that before with a Rio Riot ("Thousands of years ago"). The only two that look...

Anybody here own one or at least used one? Im interested in this one.

My Zen Touch 40gb has a great, "by itself" sound. It also has a now (with a firmware update) decent EQ. But iAudio players also have a great sound just on their own as well. Your best best would be a Creative player, like the Touch, or an iAudio X5.

I think the speed of transfers is actually improved, I just loaded about 30gigs of music back on my Zen in an hour and change, I was surprised that it was so quick considering it was that music music.

I dunno if theres any Who fans reading this thread, but their "Remastered" CD of The Kids Are Alright is about the most horribly compressed album I have ever heard. Its a complete abomination of a remaster. The Whos latest remasters have also suffered from an extensive use of noise reduction as...

You might wanna look into the new iAudio U3, its looking like a very nice flash player (Heck, it even supports FLAC!).

Bummer, I have had been searching for that original firmware for the last week and just 20 minutes ago I updated to the newest one Oh well, Creative did fix up the EQ quite nicely (meaning it actually kinda works now). And its also nice to able to drag and drop finally. Although I use my...

I saw The Mars Volta live in Santa Barbara a few weeks ago and they were simply amazing. They played a non-stop 2 hour set with so much energy and depth it was really surprising. They were all miked and mixed very well, you could even make out the guy hamering away at the random percussion...

On my Zen Touch the gap is never more than a split-second. All live albums and gapless albums play very nicely. Were you thinking about getting a Creative player?

The Who, Live at Leeds (accept no substitutes)

Quote: Anyway Mr Cookie.... can you please tell me if it is worth upgrading from the Jukebox 3 to the new Zen series? Especially considering how much I am already satisfied with the SQ and UI? Will the new Zen players will allow me to use my old school firmware from my Nomad Jukebox? If...

I own a Zen Touch and before that a Karma and a Nomad Jukebox 3 before that, and I have to say that Creative can make some great players. A few things trouble me about them though, one being that they have lost many, many features over the years, and not to mention sound quality. The Nomad JB3...

I just tried out the SR60s and I must say I was impressed, they seemed much brighter and clearer then my PX100s or my Portapro (RIP). Good stuff