[Setmagic]

I found interesting and quite similar to Z4 in design player.
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[XTF1]

I found interesting and quite similar to Z4 in design player.
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Link does not seem to work…. What is it?

 

[Setmagic]

Link does not seem to work…. What is it?

Fixed

 

[XTF1]

I found interesting and quite similar to Z4 in design player.
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Link does not seem to work…. What is it?

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I found interesting and quite similar to Z4 in design player.
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Link does not seem to work…. What is it?

This Quloos QA361 has been around for quite some time (2019?). The design is indeed interesting, but at this price point, there are many excellent DAPs and I think it looses the Zishan DIY mod. magic!
The recent F.Audio XS04 may be closer to the Zishan spirit, but if one complains about Zishan firmware, wait to see F.Audio ones I hope they’ve improved!

 

[Setmagic]

This Quloos QA361 has been around for quite some time (2019?). The design is indeed interesting, but at this price point, there are many excellent DAPs and I think it looses the Zishan DIY mod. magic!
The recent F.Audio XS04 may be closer to the Zishan spirit, but if one complains about Zishan firmware, wait to see F.Audio ones I hope they’ve improved!

Super capacitor 2x470000uF AMP rail it's really overkill 1000 times. I'm just wondering where "snake oil" starts.
Multiple LDO's and true separate digital-analog pot just got me.

 

[XTF1]

Super capacitor 2x470000uF AMP rail it's really overkill 1000 times. I'm just wondering where "snake oil" starts.
Multiple LDO's and true separate digital-analog pot just got me.

I also enjoyed reading the spec of the Quloos QA390, a semi-portable desktop monster… but $1400 to $2000 !!!

 

[Inspector Gadget]

you are wondering where the snake oil starts?

1.

hehe.

it also appears to be a blatant copy of the cayin N6 / N8 players. Cayin are not shy about publishing information on their designs (and although OTT and $$$$ the engineering appears sound) but I have not seen any measurement result of the cayin TOTL players to confirm objective performance and many times DAPs fall short, due to interference and problems with compact PCB layout.

I cant see how it bares any relationship to the Z4 personally. It s different in almost every way possible. there is too much to comment on wrt their marketing, but honestly with that google-translate, it hardly makes any sense at all, so its difficult for me to comment.

 

[Setmagic]

you are wondering where the snake oil starts?

1.

hehe.

it also appears to be a blatant copy of the cayin N6 / N8 players. Cayin are not shy about publishing information on their designs (and although OTT and $$$$ the engineering appears sound) but I have not seen any measurement result of the cayin TOTL players to confirm objective performance and many times DAPs fall short, due to interference and problems with compact PCB layout.

I cant see how it bares any relationship to the Z4 personally. It s different in almost every way possible. there is too much to comment on wrt their marketing, but honestly with that google-translate, it hardly makes any sense at all, so its difficult for me to comment.

Yes, it was "a joke" about very similar looks and one same size PCB layout. Multiply opa1622, LDO's and crazy amount of capacitance from super capacitors.
In desktop audio where interference from AC/DC can be filtered by a big amount of capacitors, maybe it's quite useful.
I love portable audio because it's portable, my first player was a cassette Walkman in 1996 it was not so expensive and works grate.
Nowadays, we have so much ridiculous expensive"luxury" stuff and "better" audio format like MQA who is only a marketing pumped by Tidal.

I have some time nowadays, so I decided to learn "how to" stuff can be examinee and don't cost $$$$.
My goal is to design in the future a portable player and share it like an open source project or sell it as assembled with possible customization.

 

[rx170ec]

Guys, can I use it for coaxial output? I want to use it for my E30’s source…

 

[Setmagic]

Guys, can I use it for coaxial output? I want to use it for my E30’s source…

Zishan Z4 can be use as coaxial player but there is no cable at the moment in store.
I think it's same type of cable as in Cayin devices:
https://shop.musicteck.com/products/type-c-to-coaxial-cable?variant=37432238606

 

[rx170ec]

Zishan Z4 can be use as coaxial player but there is no cable at the moment in store.
I think it's same type of cable as in Cayin devices:
https://shop.musicteck.com/products/type-c-to-coaxial-cable?variant=37432238606

Thank you for your answer buddy. If there are no more way to use my z4 for source? As far as I know, there is no usb lineout in Z4…

 

[Setmagic]

Thank you for your answer buddy. If there are no more way to use my z4 for source? As far as I know, there is no usb lineout in Z4…

Hard to say if it can be enable in next firmware updates.
I will ask.

 

[rx170ec]

Hard to say if it can be enable in next firmware updates.
I will ask.

Thank you for your kindness

 

[manepipoca]

Hi guys!
In your Z4 the last second of the song has a little cut? If i am listenen to a live album that is very annoying because has a second of silence between tracks and I notice that if a track ends at the very last second this time is cut off too.

I am using the V0.1 firmware with BT correction.

Thank you all!

 

[Setmagic]

Thank you for your kindness

We are waiting for expansion board, They can't tell if other USB-C to Coaxial Spdif working.

Hi guys!
In your Z4 the last second of the song has a little cut? If i am listenen to a live album that is very annoying because has a second of silence between tracks and I notice that if a track ends at the very last second this time is cut off too.

I am using the V0.1 firmware with BT correction.

Thank you all!

Yes, there is no gap less playback on Zishans DSDs and Z4 i dont know about other models.
It's like 1-second delay between files, unless You use "one album" per "one FLAC" and .CUE song table.
Maybe will be support in next firmware.