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Originally Posted by tigon_ridge
"I respectfully disagree. This thread ought to serve as an informative thread, not just an "appreciation" thread as its title dictates. Thus, I welcome all critical comments, just as long as they are backed up with some substantial descriptions, rather than just "dead" or "dull" - likewise, when people praise these phones; although, I don't really mind these vague descriptions at all. I just don't give them much, if any, consideration."
Although I do wonder how specific one's descriptions must be to satisfy tygon_ridge's requirements. This is a public forum, not a rarified academic discussion. We are attempting to convey our experiences of a shared interest with others. Sometimes we might endeavour to provide very specific descriptions and at other times not. These discussions can range from uninformed to knowledgeable, general to technical, moderate to extreme, clumsy to eloquent and naff to almost profound.
I find tygon_ridge's expectations a little unrealistic and a tad condescending. Frankly, I think he should keep his critiques about how people choose to express themselves in their posts to himself. I certainly don't post here in the hope of meeting the minimum standard that warrants his consideration.
There is also a common language and glossary of terms that are in regular use throughout the forum threads. Many of these terms are analogous and imprecise in nature. These are open to varying interpretation but by and large, most people seem to get the gist.
Are the examples of vague descriptions that tygon_ridge cites indicative of the stringent standards that he applies to the use of descriptive language or does it suggest a level of obtuseness on his part?
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You misunderstood my intended message by such a wide margin I don't even know where to start. To address your accusations, which I bolded:
"I find tygon_ridge's expectations a little unrealistic and a tad condescending."
I specifically said that I do not mind any posted impressions of any products on these boards. I said that these are no
my standards, but rather, anyone would understand that when people go into these forums looking for clues as to which
very expensive audio purchase to make next, they'd naturally give more weight to the opinions that are more descriptive. That doesn't mean that the less descriptive opinions don't deserve to have their place on these forums, nor that the people who post them are somehow doing a disservice to others.
"stringent standards"
I said before, but since you somehow missed it, I'll repeat: I have no problem with anything you post about the UM3X or whatnot. All I did was ask you to specify some specific differences that you heard. Now, being the incredibly wise and mature person that you seem to be, you somehow reacted by giving, in your own words, a "stern lecture." Now, who's "condescending?"
"his critiques about how people choose to express themselves in their posts to himself"
My critiques? All I said was that the less descriptive posts are cool and all, but that the more descriptive posts are even better. Mind explaining why you think this is a critique?
Please be advised: Although I do not intend to create distractions and arguments in this thread, I will not sit still while you slander me with baseless accusations. I believe my messages were very clear, and quite frankly, common sense. I do not see them as critiques of how anyone posts their opinions. I only described their relative values. I never said that your statements about the UM3X bear no value, but you yourself must admit: if you were a head-fier wandering the threads looking for information about these IEMs, you probably give much more consideration to opinions that are built upon solid concrete observations. Concrete descriptions is where we head-fiers get the most value. I've read some great posts, many of which even have determined where I'm leaning towards in my future purchase decisions. The lesser-detailed posts like your own, also intrigue me at best; and intrigued me they did, which was why I wanted to know more, which was why I asked you for a simple comparison that shouldn't take more than 2 minutes of your time - imagine my surprise when my request for your further (respected) opinions was met with something like "haven't you already read enough? go get yourself some iem's already."