Jun 9, 2025 at 1:14 PM Post #6,421 of 6,449
That's why I don't like UAPP. It's too complex. I'm using Hiby now. Has a good easy accessible EQ and interface. Very quick music scan when you add and delete music fi

That's why I don't like UAPP. It's too complex. I'm using Hiby now. Has a good easy accessible EQ and interface. Very quick music scan when you add and delete music files.
I admit it's complex (and I haven't done a fresh install on a device in about a year) but it seems the default settings are pretty close. However it's a one and done scenario. Also if you get it to where you're really happy with it, you can transfer those few settings that need changing over to a new device easily. Not sure how Hiby compares so I can't comment on that. I have to say I'm not a "bit-perfect snob" if there is such a thing. I listen about 98% in my stereo room and 2% headphones. While I do feed bit-perfect into my Gustard U18 DDC and X26 lll dac (both connected to their C18 clock) I do disable non oversampling and let the dac work its magic. It helps noticeably with 44.1/16 but it's debatable if it helps with hi-rez tracks. At any rate it doesn't seem to hurt so I've been using that setting for everything because I got tired of changing back and forth all the time
 
Jun 9, 2025 at 2:07 PM Post #6,422 of 6,449
I know, but that's no longer a relevant argument

It's just an opinion. Don't be so categorical.

you guys are so biased by that "marketing term" that you forget to really listen.

Oh, come on. I can't believe that in 2025 someone would presume to teach others how to listen to music.
 
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Jun 9, 2025 at 4:54 PM Post #6,423 of 6,449
Bit-perfect means it bypasses the android sound server. It has nothing to do with marketing. Whether or not it sounds better isn't the point, it is to avoid the music being resampled before the DAC.
You are wrong...that's NOT the meaning of bit perfect in UAPP. You are describing its unique HiRes Direct driver.
 
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Jun 9, 2025 at 5:15 PM Post #6,424 of 6,449
That's exactly my point: you guys are so biased by that "marketing term" that you forget to really listen.

Who's biased? You can't presume to know others motivations.

I use bit perfect setting to remove that particular influence. Leaves me to play with the others and replicate my findings.
 
Jun 10, 2025 at 2:36 AM Post #6,425 of 6,449
It's just an opinion. Don't be so categorical.



Oh, come on. I can't believe that in 2025 someone would presume to teach others how to listen to music.
You felt the need to respond, but you clearly misunderstood my message. Now that (almost) all DAPs bypass Android's SRC, the HiRes Direct driver is no longer an argument for using UAPP. Some vendors even license/use this specific driver for their DAPs. And as for bit perfect: apart from the fact that some people don't know what this means in the context of UAPP, I'm having a great time reading all the nonsense about (the need for) this setting (and the perceived impact on sound quality). But hey...feel free to disagree.
 
Jun 10, 2025 at 3:07 AM Post #6,426 of 6,449
You felt the need to respond, but you clearly misunderstood my message

I understand perfectly what you mean, and I will repeat: everyone decides for themselves how to listen to music and enjoy it.
 
Jun 10, 2025 at 5:01 AM Post #6,427 of 6,449
You are wrong...that's NOT the meaning of bit perfect in UAPP. You are describing its unique HiRes Direct driver.
From here:

Bypassing the limits of Android
When connecting an Android phone or tablet to a USB DAC, USB Audio Player PRO will unleash the full power of the DAC, by using our custom developed USB audio driver. This bypasses the Android audio system completely, meaning that Android's limitations regarding bit resolution and sample rate (16-bit/48kHz) are made irrelevant and high quality audio streams are fed directly to the DAC, making playback up to 32-bit at 384kHz possible (depending on the DAC capabilities) or even DSD.


This may no longer be the case with newer android versions (from 14 onwards) but it certainly was the case and still remains so on the android devices I use with UAPP
 
Jun 10, 2025 at 5:04 AM Post #6,428 of 6,449
From here:

Bypassing the limits of Android
When connecting an Android phone or tablet to a USB DAC, USB Audio Player PRO will unleash the full power of the DAC, by using our custom developed USB audio driver. This bypasses the Android audio system completely, meaning that Android's limitations regarding bit resolution and sample rate (16-bit/48kHz) are made irrelevant and high quality audio streams are fed directly to the DAC, making playback up to 32-bit at 384kHz possible (depending on the DAC capabilities) or even DSD.


This may no longer be the case with newer android versions (from 14 onwards) but it certainly was the case and still remains so on the android devices I use with UAPP
Still working just fine on Android 15 👍
 
Jun 10, 2025 at 6:04 AM Post #6,429 of 6,449
I understand perfectly what you mean, and I will repeat: everyone decides for themselves how to listen to music and enjoy it.
And where exactly did you read that I claim the opposite? I'm just amazed at the certainty with which some defend bit perfect.
 
Jun 10, 2025 at 2:40 PM Post #6,431 of 6,449
To make peace with everyone I suggest they change the term "bit-perfect" to "bit-extraordinary" or "bit-marvelous" thus avoiding the word perfect
I would go for "bit-lifeless" ;)
 
Jun 10, 2025 at 7:08 PM Post #6,434 of 6,449
I would go for "bit-lifeless" ;)
You seem to be alone on an island regarding this subject. Reminds me (a little) of the guy who tells a psychiatrist "I'm not crazy, everyone else is" but if it works for you keep doing it. If you really want to stir the pot tell everyone how MQA has been a game changer
 
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Jun 11, 2025 at 1:13 AM Post #6,435 of 6,449
So you like more DSP. That's fine too. Stop being a troll. Maybe mention your source and solution?
A troll, really? All those factless claims about UAPP and bit perfect and you're calling me a troll? Anyway, I'm using a DX340 with the native Qobuz app, fully optimized for low latency performance. You can find my DX340 specific code here . With years of experience in tuning/tweaking Linux-kernel based streaming devices and hundreds of users, I think I have the right to say what I want, and - more importantly - know.

And yes, I still use UAPP on my Z-Fold6, not for sound quality, but because I have access to all my music sources through it. But as long as it requires Google Play Store/Services to run in the background...I would never use it on a DAP. Low latency has a much bigger impact on sound-quality than a questionable bit-perfect switch.

Btw, in response to someone else's comment: music apps can play up to 192 kHz on my Z-Fold6 (Android 15), without SRC.
 
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