maverickronin
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I don't think the position matters.
Brass or chrome finishing screws would probably look nice.
Brass or chrome finishing screws would probably look nice.
I have some wood cups nearly on their way. I had a couple of questions about the finish:
1) What grit sandpaper should I sand the inside of the cups?
2) I am going to be using Tung Oil as a finish, should i worry about the stain "bleeding through" to the inside?
3) Should I assume staining the inside would change the sound and the whole point of making wood cups?
1) I wouldn't personally bother sanding the inside. If it comes from the woodturner it should be reasonably finished and if its rough as a bears bottom, unless you have a lathe it will take you forever to clean the surface up. You might end up covering it with some sort of acoustic material and who's going to look inside anyway.
2) Unless you are using paper thin wood cups or some very absorbent wood I doubt the stain oil will penetrate far and as in 1) who's going to look. I wouldn't worry whether it does or doesn't penetrate the wood. Anyway, don't put too much Tung oil on or you'll end up with a sticky mess that'll never 'go off'.
3) Yes I think staining, oiling or varnishing the inside will affect the sound. Generally you'll be making the wood surface harder in texture, so more impervious to damage. Denon varnish inside their D7000 mahogany cups and these cups ring quite nicely if you give them a knock. Depending on the type of stain (varnish or just color) you'll affect the resonating frequency of the cups. I don't see much reason to stain inside the cups unless you want to change the sound, so, as in 1) nobody is going to look, and anyway Stradivarius never stained inside his violins.
Thank you. I pretty much assumed what you confirmed. I was not planning on staining the inside, just the opposite infact. I was planning on taping off the inside to prevent stain. My only concern is that the cups are so thin at 1/4" that the stain will bleed though any ways, so should I put one coat on if this happens just for unity?
I am dead set on Tung Oil as it is an all natural finish that should hold up for years. In order to get a nice shine, I was suggested to use 3-7 coats on a very well sanded product something near 1000 grit. The inside however I was thinking wouldn't "roughing" it up with a 50grit be better for soundwaves? Or would smoothness be better?
I don't know what wood you are using but 1/4 inch is quite a lot of wood, I wouldn't worry about bleed through. As for finishing Tung oil won't give you a high gloss finish, but will look beautiful and be highly tactile. I would recommend getting some wet and dry paper start with 600 and using the Tung oil as lubricant rub down the cups. This will give you a nice oily paste which you can wipe away. Rub the cups down with a little more oil and put it aside to 'go off'. Repeat this procedure with progressively finer grits 1000, 2000 and 4000 and you'll know when you are done. Each time the slurry will get finer and finer and eventually very little will come off, at this point you will have refined the surface to near perfection.
Internally I don't think smooth is better, but I put a layer of Paxmate in my cups so the quality of the internal surface was irrelevant. YMMV.