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Aug 25, 2022 at 3:18 PM Post #33,407 of 88,756
So, what cable did you pic as an upgrade for Supermoon?
I'm currently using the liquid links Venom now, but haven't been able to try the venom with the supermoon as I only had it on loan as a demo unit.

Back when I had the supermoon, it was paired with cema vulture cable. Definitely an upgrade over the stock, although falls behind all the totl cables here on the cooler thread 😂
 
Aug 25, 2022 at 3:40 PM Post #33,408 of 88,756
Since when do you listen to male vocals?

I have a feeling the track was selected intentionally for the picture, the pun of "fly me to the moon" with Supermoon in your ears :D Definitely a good one!
 
Aug 25, 2022 at 3:44 PM Post #33,409 of 88,756
Here is my 12 as of right now:

1) Supermoon
2) Kr5 (this one has been a revelation for me since getting the tour kit back)
3) EXT
4) Traillii (Still holding its place though I have not heard it recently)
5) Xe6 (takes some getting used to coming from SM...I prefer the sub-bass emphasis and more open presentation of Kr5)
6) Zen Pro (The most technically proficient single DD I've heard still.)
7) FW10000 (Not an all rounder but probably still the best string timbre I've ever heard.)
8) Phonix (Sounds unnaturally warm to me at times, not as resolving as SM...but the mids are so seductive...a wonderful experience.)
9) Dorado 2020 (Not as technically accomplished as anything else on this list but it's got a charm that still wins me over.)
10) Anima (This takes some brain burn in to appreciate but once I'm in the groove with it I love it. A brighter/colder presentation than I'm used to but it's very enjoyable.)
11) IER Z1R (Not my ideal FR...possibly the first IEM I will purchase a third time.)
12) Solaris (My first love.)
 
Aug 25, 2022 at 3:46 PM Post #33,410 of 88,756
7) FW10000 (Not an all rounder but probably still the best string timbre I've ever heard.)
I cannot wait to hear this for myself. Isabellae made me swoon with strings and I am hoping the FW10K will make me weep with joy!
 
Aug 25, 2022 at 3:46 PM Post #33,411 of 88,756
I have a feeling the track was selected intentionally for the picture, the pun of "fly me to the moon" with Supermoon in your ears :D Definitely a good one!
Yeah, I know. But, it was out of sync with what he listens to. This would have been better

 
Aug 25, 2022 at 3:47 PM Post #33,412 of 88,756
I cannot wait to hear this for myself. Isabellae made me swoon with strings and I am hoping the FW10K will make me weep with joy!

I see you have it incoming...can't wait for your thoughts on it.
 
Aug 25, 2022 at 3:53 PM Post #33,413 of 88,756
I have a feeling the track was selected intentionally for the picture, the pun of "fly me to the moon" with Supermoon in your ears :D Definitely a good one!

When can we expect one of your comprehensive reviews of the Supermoon?
 
Aug 25, 2022 at 3:58 PM Post #33,414 of 88,756
A few weeks ago I posted the question above. Later, I spoke with Andrew/Musicteck who is often approached by different brands for consideration of new products, and Andrew asked me if I'm interested to take a listen. Now, this V44 made its way to me for a week to do a quick listening and to provide the feedback. I was skeptical, yet curious because of 22-driver per side design. I listen/evaluate a lot of new stuff, only write about fraction of it, and actually thought this one deserves a little mini-review. Not even sure if Andrew/MT will consider carrying it, but I wanted to share my impressions anyway. So, here it goes!

Victory Melody VM-V44

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Just when you thought drivers war was over years ago, here comes a new flagship IEM from an unknown company, Victory Melody, featuring a whooping 22 drivers per side. The model’s name is VM-V44 which refers to a total of 44 drivers used between both shells. Each shell has 8 Sonion bass BAs, 6 Sonion mids BAs, 4 Sonion highs BAs, and 4 Sonion EST drivers, and 2 switches. That’s a lot of drivers, but, surprisingly, they sound very coherent and continue to maintain their coherency even once you start toggling switches.

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Obviously, to fit all these 22 Sonion drivers, voltage converter for ESTs, and a double switch along with crossover components, you need a lot of room. As a result, shells are big and will stick out of your ears, but they are surprisingly lightweight and fit comfortably. Just have to be sure a proper pair of eartips is selected for a secure fit. Also, I assume they didn’t have a spare room to put 2pin socket inside the shell, so they used protruded socket which is outside the shell, but unlike some other IEMs with similar external sockets, its polarity is not reversed and you can use any other regular 2pin 0.78mm cable which I verified. Stock cable is either silver or silver plated, and has connector housing that wraps around the protruded socket.

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The tuning is actually very good, surprisingly good, and the switches do an excellent job with different levels of bass boost. By looking at my measurements with 4 different switch positions, you can see how well bass and lower mids scale up while upper mids/treble remain the same. Here, the credit probably goes to a well-executed crossover design which only boosts specific region of frequency response while keeping upper mids and treble unchanged, clear and detailed, without being pushed back as you add more bass.

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Sound Analysis.

The overall sound is very natural and detailed. Coherency of tuning is on the level of listening to a pair of full-size headphones. The soundstage is OK, definitely above the average but not on holographic level of expansion, and you do feel like sitting in the front row, closer to the performer. Despite using BA lows, bass sounds very analog, full bodied, typical of DD weight/impact. It scales up well, going from a tastefully boosted impact to a precise and noticeably elevated EQ shelving filter boost in both sub-bass rumble and mid-bass punch.

As bass goes up, more body is added to lower mids, but they don’t become muddy or thick. Mids remain very detailed and still quite natural with a forward presentation thanks to a pinna gain boost around 2k-3k. Upper mids/lower treble also have a precise tuning to avoid common sibilance peaks, and sound very natural, detailed, clear, not too organic or analytical. Treble has its moderate sparkle and natural clarity. Not a very airy extension, just enough to give the sound a perfect upper frequencies definition without being rolled off.

I think for some it could beg the question, what other TOTL iems is the tuning closer to? To my ears, it is closer to Traillii due to their more relaxed analog bass, smoother laidback mids, and natural treble. Traillii does have a bigger, more expanded soundstage and more sparkle/air in treble, but V44 bass adjustment will scratch an itch if you are craving more bass with a deeper impact. Also, V44 shell is bigger, but it still fits comfortably in concha area of my ears.

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To me, Victory Melody is an unknown new brand, but the tuning is quite mature and well done considering 22 drivers per side. What impressed me the most is the coherency of tuning with all the drivers working in unison. Then, also a rather well executed crossover design with 2 switches giving you 4 levels of precise bass adjustment which is not a gimmick. And, along with a bass adjustment, I was impressed how upper mids and treble remained forward, still quite detailed and natural, and not overpowered by the bass boost.

Funny how their banner says “More is Better”. While it’s not always true, especially relative to IEM design and driver count, but in this case it actually works :)

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But is it a new brand or were they already on the market?
 
Aug 25, 2022 at 4:03 PM Post #33,415 of 88,756
Aug 25, 2022 at 4:14 PM Post #33,416 of 88,756
I’ve been on the hunt for a desktop device to use with both my IEMs and headphones. Ideally an AIO. Slim pickings between the sub-$1k bracket and $5k+ stratosphere. Think I’ve found just what I was after….who knew.

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And to preempt the question, no, I’m not going down the brand matching rabbit hole 😜
 
Aug 25, 2022 at 4:32 PM Post #33,417 of 88,756
This is the most unbelievable setup I've ever heard. The Aroma stack is the real deal, especially paired to the LP6 AE. The bass is surreal, yes the bass with this amp on LP6 is godly, texture is off the charts - the PS100 is absolutely necessary, takes it all to another level. Mids are just stunning. Treble is less rolled off but still retaining that signature analog vibe. The subbass reach is even better than N8ii which I consider to have the best bass. Stage is wider, micro details are more present and realistic. WOW.

Signal chain is: LP6 AE > Orpheus IC > Aroma A100TB w/ PS100 > Orpheus Shielding > Aroma Jewel CIEM.

I know that it's all the price of a decent car, but f%*! does it sound ridiculously good. Please excuse the poor photo but I've been listening so long its now dark outside.

Listing closed, not letting this one go. :)

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Aug 25, 2022 at 4:36 PM Post #33,418 of 88,756
This is the most unbelievable setup I've ever heard. The Aroma stack is the real deal, especially paired to the LP6 AE. The bass is surreal, yes the bass with this amp on LP6 is godly, texture is off the charts - the PS100 is absolutely necessary, takes it all to another level. Mids are just stunning. Treble is less rolled off but still retaining that signature analog vibe. The subbass reach is even better than N8ii which I consider to have the best bass. Stage is wider, micro details are more present and realistic. WOW.

Signal chain is: LP6 AE > Orpheus IC > Aroma A100TB w/ PS100 > Orpheus Shielding > Aroma Jewel CIEM.

I know that it's all the price of a decent car, but f%*! does it sound ridiculously good. Please excuse the poor photo but I've been listening so long its now dark outside.

Listing closed, not letting this one go. :)
A mini desk top system! Love it!
 
Aug 25, 2022 at 4:46 PM Post #33,419 of 88,756
I’ve been on the hunt for a desktop device to use with both my IEMs and headphones. Ideally an AIO. Slim pickings between the sub-$1k bracket and $5k+ stratosphere. Think I’ve found just what I was after….who knew.

D568EAB6-0938-4C7C-9107-C36C5B5A3B44.jpeg

And to preempt the question, no, I’m not going down the brand matching rabbit hole 😜
IER Z1R is calling you
 
Aug 25, 2022 at 4:48 PM Post #33,420 of 88,756
weird part being the lion heart isn’t suppose to change color like this from what I heard
Unfortunately, this is inherent in one way or another in all cables. If the insulation has microcracks or is not dense enough. After all, if your country has a very humid climate or vice versa, it's very hot and you sweat - all this can affect.

Recently, I saw a partially darkened ALO Reference 8. Moreover, after several years of heavy use, the connectors in this cable started to turn green! The connectors are inside the transparent filling, but not the cable! I still thought it was physically impossible.
But someone had bad luck or some kind of magic.
 

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