[rgs9200m]

Thanks Zolkis.

 

[HemiSam]

Is there a Cliffs Notes version?
 
 

 
HS

 

[wink]

Can I get one with unicorn feather coating...?

 

[scotsstax]

sorry to buttt in but i just fixed i hope a pair o sr404 sigs with srm3 driver amp i usrd 1 micron mylar phey what a job!!will i get more sound qual and r esponse fropm pc anti static gel also splitting thosse brass ring stators removing old glue mate..............!!!!will some overnight burn in tine benefit them gradualy ??wil addin ink tothe gel help sensitivity and sound m8  ps what s the best to remove the glue? im using evo stik contact and its quite thick m8, im new to this , ive done quad 57s , but holy god this is mental!!!! cheers guys

 

[Lonely_Rider]

  The 009 will transmit loud and clear any digital upper-mid emphasis that is in the recording or digital source and this can easily be fatiguing or worse if you are sensitive to this. If the amp adds to this too (like the Stax amps do to my ears, and apparently to people like Tyll), you are in trouble.

 
For me, there is no upper mid range emphasis in 727 with, like with KGST, when using SR-009.

 

[zolkis]

Originally Posted by rgs9200m 
 
The 009 will transmit loud and clear any digital upper-mid emphasis that is in the recording or digital source and this can easily be fatiguing or worse if you are sensitive to this. If the amp adds to this too (like the Stax amps do to my ears, and apparently to people like Tyll), you are in trouble.
 
Originally Posted by Lonely_Rider /img/forum/go_quote.gif
For me, there is no upper midrange emphasis in 727, like with KGST.

 
IMHO the 009 (at least mine) does have a slight upper mids emphasis around 4 kHz, and if the recording or upstream equipment has it as well, it may become too much. With normal recordings it comes through as enhanced clarity, sounding musical, and doesn't make the music sound any harder.

 

[Pokemonn]

   
IMHO the 009 (at least mine) does have a slight upper mids emphasis around 4 kHz, and if the recording or upstream equipment has it as well, it may become too much. With normal recordings it comes through as enhanced clarity, sounding musical, and doesn't make the music sound any harder.

I bought 009 twice lol..my first 009 was very bright.that was almost unlistenable. 2nd pair of 009 (which I own now) is OK and bit need EQ in treble.

 

[AnakChan]

 
I bought 009 twice lol..my first 009 was very bright.that was almost unlistenable. 2nd pair of 009 (which I own now) is OK and bit need EQ in treble.

Wonder if there was something wrong with your 1st 009. Was it new or 2nd hand? Last June arnaud, donnyhifi, wallabee & myself got together for a Stax afternoon and we had 3xSR-009s (2x from 2012 and 1x from 2015, 2 weeks old) and although there were subtle differences, they weren't as drastically different that one could be listened to whilst the others not.
 

 
P.S. We also had SR-007Mk1s (& one SR-007Mk2) there of different ages. Also slight differences here and there - in fact the differences between the SR-007Mk1s were bigger than the differences in the SR-009's
 

 

[joseph69]

 
Wonder if there was something wrong with your 1st 009. Was it new or 2nd hand? Last June arnaud, donnyhifi, wallabee & myself got together for a Stax afternoon and we had 3xSR-009s (2x from 2012 and 1x from 2015, 2 weeks old) and although there were subtle differences, they weren't as drastically different that one could be listened to whilst the others not.
 

 
P.S. We also had SR-007Mk1s (& one SR-007Mk2) there of different ages. Also slight differences here and there - in fact the differences between the SR-007Mk1s were bigger than the differences in the SR-009's
 

In short how did the afternoon go?
Which combo/s did most of you prefer?
Thanks

 

[AnakChan]

  In short how did the afternoon go?
Which combo/s did most of you prefer?
Thanks

 
That day was really more an amp/DAC comparison with a curiosity of whether the new production SR-009 really was an improvement over the older 2012 (or 2011?) ones. Not too sure if I should be speaking on behalf of my colleagues (they are members here afterall) but the BHSE stood out clearly from the KGST, Electra, and SRM-007tA. For the headphones, there were small but noticeable differences between the new and old SR-009's however at least to me not as much as had been expressed in here and other forums. We were speculating it was the pads that were the differences however at $240 for a pair, at least I wasn't prepared to spend that much for that difference and would rather wait till my current SR-009 pads were truly well/worn out before considering changing.

The differences in the SR-007Mk1s were also noticeably different and again we think it could be the pads.

For me,  if I were able to nitpick, then yes it would be the new SR-009, BHSE (with XF4? tubes?), & TotalDAC was my sonic bliss for that day.

P.S. it's been more than 6 months a little too long to articulate the differences in detail but if you search around the forums here, I think you may read a few snippets here and there (possibly in the Electra, KGST, or BHSE threads) from the various members who were at the gathering.

 

[joseph69]

   
That day was really more an amp/DAC comparison with a curiosity of whether the new production SR-009 really was an improvement over the older 2012 (or 2011?) ones. Not too sure if I should be speaking on behalf of my colleagues (they are members here afterall) but the BHSE stood out clearly from the KGST, Electra, and SRM-007tA. For the headphones, there were small but noticeable differences between the new and old SR-009's however at least to me not as much as had been expressed in here and other forums. We were speculating it was the pads that were the differences however at $240 for a pair, at least I wasn't prepared to spend that much for that difference and would rather wait till my current SR-009 pads were truly well/worn out before considering changing.

The differences in the SR-007Mk1s were also noticeably different and again we think it could be the pads.

For me,  if I were able to nitpick, then yes it would be the new SR-009, BHSE (with XF4? tubes?), & TotalDAC was my sonic bliss for that day.

P.S. it's been more than 6 months a little too long to articulate the differences in detail but if you search around the forums here, I think you may read a few snippets here and there (possibly in the Electra, KGST, or BHSE threads) from the various members who were at the gathering.

Thank you.
I was asking because I to have had the 009 which I purchased a few months ago paired with a KGSShv (spritzer) and a PWDll and found the 009 to be quite bright so I sold off the 009/KGSShv. Long story short, I had a BHSE (expected sometime in March/April) on order at the time and I have now purchased another 009 and a quad matched set of NOS Amperex EL34's…hopefully my experience is different this time around with the BHSE/NOS tubes because I really liked the 009 but they were unbearable at times…even at low volumes.
Thank for the info!

 

[astrostar59]

 
Wonder if there was something wrong with your 1st 009. Was it new or 2nd hand? Last June arnaud, donnyhifi, wallabee & myself got together for a Stax afternoon and we had 3xSR-009s (2x from 2012 and 1x from 2015, 2 weeks old) and although there were subtle differences, they weren't as drastically different that one could be listened to whilst the others not.
 

 
P.S. We also had SR-007Mk1s (& one SR-007Mk2) there of different ages. Also slight differences here and there - in fact the differences between the SR-007Mk1s were bigger than the differences in the SR-009's
 

Oh my, what headphone porn! Love it. I am glad to hear that most likely the 009s are consistent. Stax do seem to almost deny any tweaking which I guess is the 'manufacturers exercise the right to update or modify this products without notice' which is the common statement we see a lot on almost any hifi product specification sheet. It gives them the freedom to improve them going forward.
 
Not sure, but that MK2 looks like a later Japanese version? The exports were black. I have a late 007A Japanese issue and it is very good, a lot better than my previous MK2 black unit and close to a 007 MK I have heard at a friends house.

 

[bmichels]

  Thank you.
I was asking because I to have had the 009 which I purchased a few months ago paired with a KGSShv (spritzer) and a PWDll and found the 009 to be quite bright so I sold off the 009/KGSShv. Long story short, I had a BHSE (expected sometime in March/April) on order at the time and I have now purchased another 009 and a quad matched set of NOS Amperex EL34's…hopefully my experience is different this time around with the BHSE/NOS tubes because I really liked the 009 but they were unbearable at times…even at low volumes.
Thank for the info!

 
Interesting.
 
And will the BHSE/NOS solve the "too bright" issue you experienced with the KGSShv ?   Do you think that the Carbon could also solve this issue ? 

 

[noxa]

Anyone have experience of the Woo Wee? Any thoughts of it vs a Stax amp say the 323S?

 

[bmichels]

  .... if I were able to nitpick, then yes it would be the new SR-009, BHSE (with XF4? tubes?), & TotalDAC was my sonic bliss for that day.

 
AnakChan, did you (or the fellows at the meet) expressed any concern about the BHSE+SR009 being a little too bright (in the long run) ?