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Jan 1, 2018 at 1:00 AM Post #2,356 of 23,487
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In fact I think to spend 600 USD max...:sweat_smile:
lionheart is a good option...
But the Ares cable...
Is the Ares II or Ares II+??

Thanks for your answers
i personally liked the lionheart with the a18. Also i believe twister6 does too
 
Jan 1, 2018 at 4:51 AM Post #2,357 of 23,487
i personally liked the lionheart with the a18. Also i believe twister6 does too

I like the Lionheart a lot with my A18. It is my preferred cable with that earphone.

I see that some people here are interested in the Ares II+. I’m selling mine. Like new condition. Just PM me if interested.
 
Jan 1, 2018 at 10:01 AM Post #2,359 of 23,487
Jan 1, 2018 at 8:37 PM Post #2,362 of 23,487
Hey man, how would you compare lionheart with Ares II+?
Do you mind elaborating a bit as how does lionhear sound to you and compare with other "popular" cables?
I feel that tge lionheart is a better version of the ares 2 with less bass emphasis, better technical performance, and imo more emotional presentaion. Plus, ergonomics are much better
 
Jan 2, 2018 at 8:05 PM Post #2,363 of 23,487
I feel that tge lionheart is a better version of the ares 2 with less bass emphasis, better technical performance, and imo more emotional presentaion. Plus, ergonomics are much better
Thanks for sharing the experience! Will Lionheart further boost the treble of A18 and make it more bright?
 
Jan 2, 2018 at 10:33 PM Post #2,366 of 23,487
I feel that tge lionheart is a better version of the ares 2 with less bass emphasis, better technical performance, and imo more emotional presentaion. Plus, ergonomics are much better

I agree that Ares II+ has more bass and is not as transparent as the Lionheart. It is a thicker cable than the Lionheart, but the ergonomics of the Ares II+ is still very good. The Lionheart is a better cable, but it is more than 2X the cost of the Ares II+. So, I'd recommend the Lionheart if you can afford it, but the Ares II+ is a really nice cable at a much lower price point.
 
Jan 2, 2018 at 10:35 PM Post #2,367 of 23,487
If you want brighter maybe the Forte is a better option

From what @jessnie is saying it seems more brightness is not something he/she wanted

Lionheart slightly boosts mid-hi which may result in a tiny bit brighter sound than stock, but it is not something disturbing. From my own trial of the Lionheart with the U18, I unfortunately found the pairing brought little to none sonical improvements that I decided to move on. On the other hand, I found the Leonidas smoothens the frequency response (without boosting the mid-hi or presence range) such that you may enjoy the monstrous high and ultra high extensions of U18 with zero fatigue.

Caveat: cables are much more niche than the earphones themselves. Don't trust too much what others say on them (me included). Some very seasoned head-fiers still maintain cables make no change to the sound quality, and while I would not take that extreme view, I do maintain that COSTLY cables with X mixed with Y coated with Z precious metals does NOT mean the sound will become better or, well, more precious lol. Must try it out yourself with your own earphones to find out what works for you.
 
Jan 2, 2018 at 10:42 PM Post #2,369 of 23,487
From what @jessnie is saying it seems more brightness is not something he/she wanted

Lionheart slightly boosts mid-hi which may result in a tiny bit brighter sound than stock, but it is not something disturbing. From my own trial of the Lionheart with the U18, I unfortunately found the pairing brought little to none sonical improvements that I decided to move on. On the other hand, I found the Leonidas smoothens the frequency response (without boosting the mid-hi or presence range) such that you may enjoy the monstrous high and ultra high extensions of U18 with zero fatigue.

Caveat: cables are much more niche than the earphones themselves. Don't trust too much what others say on them (me included). Some very seasoned head-fiers still maintain cables make no change to the sound quality, and while I would not take that extreme view, I do maintain that COSTLY cables with X mixed with Y coated with Z precious metals does NOT mean the sound will become better or, well, more precious lol. Must try it out yourself with your own earphones to find out what works for you.
Very well said man, really appreciate your insights! I agree as currently I'm kinda in the dark searching for the "ideal" cable to pair with my A18 by reading other people's comments (although I try to read as much as I possibly can attempting to finally arrive at a relatively unbiased opinion), knowing that people using different DAP, having different taste and benchmarks. The ability to test all those cables out will be a dream. I'm currently contacting MS to see if they are able to ship some demo cables over to the states....
 
Jan 3, 2018 at 6:45 AM Post #2,370 of 23,487
Very well said man, really appreciate your insights! I agree as currently I'm kinda in the dark searching for the "ideal" cable to pair with my A18 by reading other people's comments (although I try to read as much as I possibly can attempting to finally arrive at a relatively unbiased opinion), knowing that people using different DAP, having different taste and benchmarks. The ability to test all those cables out will be a dream. I'm currently contacting MS to see if they are able to ship some demo cables over to the states....

It sounds like what you really want is the Ares II Plus
 

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