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The FiiO X3 2nd gen (ex X3K, X3II) Thread : 192K/24B, CS4398,Native DSD, USB DAC with LO and inline remote
Jan 9, 2015 at 8:59 AM Post #123 of 9,972
sallymaehogsby said:
   
 
 
Hmmm. I'm wondering if I should grab another (original) X3 while they're still available.  The hardware bass & treble suit me better than the equalizer.
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mmmmmm ... if you have spare money you don't know where to spend ! and don't want an new quality amp or new headphone
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 ... and love the X3 that much .. then yes get another one 
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Jan 9, 2015 at 11:47 AM Post #124 of 9,972
bruce1967 said:
  I don't believe so. Just the equalizer.
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Such a let down.. The x3 was one of my favorite players and hands down the best when it came to bass and treble settings due to using hardware vs software. If this is true then I see no reason to get it over a x1 or x5 even.. I hope they keep it as a true successor to the x3.
 
FYI its being shown over at CES. Take a look at the FiiO facebook page for pictures of the unit.
 
Jan 9, 2015 at 12:30 PM Post #125 of 9,972
puerrican85 said:
  Such a let down.. The x3 was one of my favorite players and hands down the best when it came to bass and treble settings due to using hardware vs software. If this is true then I see no reason to get it over a x1 or x5 even.. I hope they keep it as a true successor to the x3.
 
FYI its being shown over at CES. Take a look at the FiiO facebook page for pictures of the unit.
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I don't know for sure that the hardware based bass & treble are gone but I think it's just going to be the equalizer which is fine for me because I tend not to fiddle with the bass & treble much keeping them at zero and Eq off. I've seen the pictures online plus one from a tech site. It's a very nice looking unit!
 
Jan 9, 2015 at 11:05 PM Post #126 of 9,972
Buut cirrus Logic is a bad company, they made the DACs for the iCrap classic which sounds sooo bad, shame on fiio for not using wolfson again
 
Any mention of internal memory (f.e 16GB internal memory) or is just a microSD slot or two?
 
Jan 9, 2015 at 11:24 PM Post #127 of 9,972
People keep ragging on the dac.... I have an ak100ii and think it sounds fantastic....
I had a dx90 which apparently has 2 superior dac chips according to comments, I had an ak100 that apparently has a better dac.... You know what??? My ak100ii craps all over them. Heck of fiio can implement this inferior dac as well as a&k have, this would be a reason I WOULD buy this dap.

Fiio listen to their customers, they improve their devices accordingly. If they have switched to the cirrus chip, I am sure they can make it work!!

I am eager to see what this thing sounds like.
If it is a good implementation of this chip with x5 or X1 ui, I will be heading to the nearest dealer to get one
 
Jan 9, 2015 at 11:27 PM Post #128 of 9,972
gerelmx1986 said:
Buut cirrus Logic is a bad company, they made the DACs for the iCrap classic which sounds sooo bad, shame on fiio for not using wolfson again

Any mention of internal memory (f.e 16GB internal memory) or is just a microSD slot or two?
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Many Astel and Kern users would disagree with this statement. The problem is not just the components but their implementation. In the iDevices that are using the Cirrus Logic chips the amps are relatively weak and the hardware implementation isn't all that great in my opinion. Wolfson DACs have a different signature than Cirrus DACs to be sure, but it's not just in the component that determines quality.

Personally, I'm not a fan of the sound of most Ciirus chip implementations, but that's me. Maybe FiiO can step up the Cirrus game here. Waiting for reports on this one.

Edit: Point proven one post above.
 
Jan 9, 2015 at 11:33 PM Post #129 of 9,972
wyd4 said:
People keep ragging on the dac.... I have an ak100ii and think it sounds fantastic....
I had a dx90 which apparently has 2 superior dac chips according to comments, I had an ak100 that apparently has a better dac.... You know what??? My ak100ii craps all over them. Heck of fiio can implement this inferior dac as well as a&k have, this would be a reason I WOULD buy this dap.

Fiio listen to their customers, they improve their devices accordingly. If they have switched to the cirrus chip, I am sure they can make it work!!

I am eager to see what this thing sounds like.
If it is a good implementation of this chip with x5 or X1 ui, I will be heading to the nearest dealer to get one
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I agree with you 100%. That's the same conclusion that I came to after I listened to the FiiO X1, X3, X5, DX50, DX90, Messo AK100, and AK100II in 1 day. The AK100II is the only one that sounds much better than my current rig and it's the only one that I'm willing to shell out money for right now.
 
So imagine my surprise when I did a quick research and found out that the Cirrus Logic chip was first released in 2003! It really brings home the point that it's not all about the chip but the implementation.
 
Jan 9, 2015 at 11:57 PM Post #130 of 9,972
xuan87 said:
I agree with you 100%. That's the same conclusion that I came to after I listened to the FiiO X1, X3, X5, DX50, DX90, Messo AK100, and AK100II in 1 day. The AK100II is the only one that sounds much better than my current rig and it's the only one that I'm willing to shell out money for right now.

So imagine my surprise when I did a quick research and found out that the Cirrus Logic chip was first released in 2003! It really brings home the point that it's not all about the chip but the implementation.
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I agree with you - I highly doubt that the choice of DAC is making a dramatic change in the sound quality.

Heck the xduoo TA-01 is currently on massdrop for $129 and it has a dual WM8740, my many years old Fiio E7 has a WM8740, my now sold X3 had the same, my NuForce icon HDP has supposedly two of them and my AK100 mk2 advertised it as the best dac in the world has it too - until they changed it and now have another best dac in the world, haha. I don't think the chip has a specific signature, it would be very wrong for the engineers to do that, however I believe the implementation recommendations would probably lead to a specific signature. But I think you are right, it's all about the implementation and the amp section has a way more important part for the end result than the

Also, people are telling me about the Fiio "house sound" of the DAPs, well they all use different DACs....

Cheers,
K
 
Jan 10, 2015 at 1:54 PM Post #131 of 9,972
The first photo of FiiO X3K, by headfonics' fanpage. 
 
Comments?
 
Source: https://www.facebook.com/headfonics/photos/a.966691640025205.1073741927.210492905645086/966691626691873/?type=1&theater
 
Jan 11, 2015 at 12:50 AM Post #132 of 9,972
deoxyseia said:
  The first photo of FiiO X3K, by headfonics' fanpage. 
 
Comments?
 
Source: https://www.facebook.com/headfonics/photos/a.966691640025205.1073741927.210492905645086/966691626691873/?type=1&theater
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It's called the X3 II (I guess they changed the name?).  That picture was in the first few pages of the thread.
 
Jan 11, 2015 at 3:17 AM Post #133 of 9,972
Jan 11, 2015 at 7:44 AM Post #134 of 9,972
Yay for cirrus, hopefully this would be able to give me some reminiscence of my ex AK240.
 
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