Well, ladies and gents, I'm a proud Papa this morning. My daughter had borrowed a set of UrBeats from her best friend, then we had my Trinity Master, PM4, Icarus III, IE80, and AKG H300. We used the same 2 sources, her phone and her phone with my E17k. After hearing the Icarus III first, she said they sounded really good, then I gave her the Beats to try. She said "I think something is wrong" I said "What do you mean?" and she said "They sound really muffled". I started laughing and told her that unfortunately, nothing was wrong, that is how the Beats actually sound, haha. So then she tried the Master, the IE80, the PM4, and then the AKG H300 and liked the sound of every one of them better than the UrBeats. She didn't like the weight of the Master or Icarus, or the size of the IE80. She didn't like the fit of the PM4. She loved the gold and white looks, the light weight, and mids and highs of the AKG though. So I gave her the AKG! She's happy, I'm ecstatic. But, I'm not getting out of this for free....... she now wants an E17k, haha.