Aug 18, 2010 at 5:04 PM Post #721 of 1,380
Further impressions:

My SM3s have now got about 16 hrs' burn-in, 10 of which with pink noise; so far there's been no change whatsoever - still generally sounding quite muddy. I can make out details in the music but it's more my brain, I think, helping bring out those details I've come to know so well. There is a veil, no question about it.

Also, I gave the 535 an added 5 hrs' burn-in with pink noise, and I still get the same anemic bass I first reported, and pronounced treble. And still prefer the 535s over the SM3s.

The fact there's been, in my view, far too much talk of which tips to use with the SM3s only further confirms, to me, there really is something not right about the SM3 sound presentation; still cannot believe how underwhelmed I am. With the IE8s, by contrast, I attribute so much talk of tips and tip mods to the somewhat awkward shape of the IE8's earpieces. I was lucky I got a perfect fit and very good seal right from the moment I tried them on. Burn-in in those was practically unnoticeable after 150 hrs, perhaps just a tiny bit of refinement - can't tell for sure.

I find the treble still more bearable on the SM3 than the 535s, though the SM3's treble is still clearly recessed. I can see myself managing much longer listening sessions with the SM3s due to what I perceive as pronounced treble on the 535s, but on the whole I still prefer the latter's overall sound along the whole frequency range.

I can also now confirm what I've been sensing for some time now: namely that too many things written in these forums tend to be exaggerated, and very much dependent on factors such as the all too familiar FOTM. Our ears, at least mine, become used to a particular type of sound fairly quickly and I feel quite a few people often, unknowingly, deceive themselves believing they've found a new 'holy grail', that is until the next new toy comes round. I strongly believe as well that the influence of so many of these posts cannot be underestimated.
 
Aug 18, 2010 at 5:10 PM Post #722 of 1,380


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Further impressions:

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I can also now confirm what I've been sensing for some time now: namely that too many things written in these forums tend to be exaggerated, and very much dependent on factors such as the all too familiar FOTM. Our ears, at least mine, become used to a particular type of sound fairly quickly and I feel quite a few people often, unknowingly, deceive themselves believing they've found a new 'holy grail', that is until the next new toy comes round. I strongly believe as well that the influence of so many of these posts cannot be underestimated.


True, of such is the stuff of Head-Fi.  I've been guilty of new toy enthusiasm myself, so one must always temper, but not discount, the first impressions of most anything.
 
Aug 18, 2010 at 5:13 PM Post #723 of 1,380
I just ignore anyone who doesn't say what I want to read.
 
p.s. SM3s plus da Sensorcoms, in da canals, kickin a$$ yo!
 
Aug 18, 2010 at 5:17 PM Post #724 of 1,380
I for one hear the treble of the SM3's as significantly more detailed and resolving than the IE8/Radius DDM/Copper, so that's perfectly extended and 'pronounced' enough for me. Although I'm admittedly no treblehead. 
 
Aug 18, 2010 at 5:17 PM Post #725 of 1,380
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Bennyboy71 said:


I just ignore anyone who doesn't say what I want to read.
 
p.s. SM3s plus da Sensorcoms, in da canals, kickin ass yo!

 
On second thought, my SM3s with Sensorcom tips sound a heck of a lot better than my customs.  :)
 
Aug 18, 2010 at 6:41 PM Post #727 of 1,380
Just received my SM3 from sound earphones today and I already love the sound.  The bass and level of detail retrieval is the best I've heard in an iem.  They actually remind me of my T1 but with more bass.  I've ordered some Sony hybrid tips but even the stock gray tips give me a decent fit.
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Aug 18, 2010 at 6:54 PM Post #730 of 1,380


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I'm just curious how much time anyone here spends listening to music without wondering if that snare would sound better on a different set of iems.


I usually listen most of the day at work with them and never think anything of the sort. And I've owned and returned/sold off the likes of Westone 3, TF10, Klipsch Custom 3, Phonak PFE, etc etc. Drums and snare only suffer slightly (if at all) when compared to the likes of the Radius DDM and FX700.
 
Aug 18, 2010 at 7:44 PM Post #732 of 1,380


he he , are you serious ? 


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Dead serious. I guess it's just me. Back when I was testing out different iems and headphones I would just play the same parts of hue same songs trying to find out what the more expensive can did that the other couldn't. After I relegated my custom tf10s to yard duty I just stuck with the sm3s and actually started listening to different music. Instead of different iems. I'm not knocking anyone about how they listen, I was only curious. I racked up a big bill buying and selling this past year and it just got old to me.
 
Aug 18, 2010 at 8:11 PM Post #733 of 1,380


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Just received my SM3 from sound earphones today and I already love the sound.  The bass and level of detail retrieval is the best I've heard in an iem.  They actually remind me of my T1 but with more bass.  I've ordered some Sony hybrid tips but even the stock gray tips give me a decent fit.
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Congrats. I'm happy you're liking them right away. Apparently many new owners don't until they experiment with tips and find the best seal. I was lucky enough to find a decent tip the first evening, and liked them straight away like you. 
 
Aug 18, 2010 at 8:23 PM Post #734 of 1,380


Congrats. I'm happy you're liking them right away. Apparently many new owners don't until they experiment with tips and find the best seal. I was lucky enough to find a decent tip the first evening, and liked them straight away like you. 




I bought a pack of black comply tips afew weeks back and happy with them. I only use the stock biflanges for metal.
 
Aug 18, 2010 at 8:49 PM Post #735 of 1,380
The tips that work best for my particular ears are JAYS silicone, and Monster standard single flange silicone on a core from the Shure Olive. No bi-flange tips seem to work, even the Sensorcom bi-flange. And triple flanges are the worst of all for me. It's so unpredictable which tip will work for different owners. 
 

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