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SONY NW-WM1Z / WM1A

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by leylandi, Jul 30, 2016.
  1. Redcarmoose
    My docking station came together due to listening to your suggestions. Though my budget doesn’t allow the DMP-Z1. So I’m left here eternally grateful basically listening to your old system! Haha.

    I needed reinforcement (at the time...from you) that it would better computer audio and it does.....even though essentially the 1A and 1Z ARE computers. :)

    You convinced me on both the dock and AQ Carbon USB. Still like the sound!
     
    Last edited: Nov 25, 2019
  2. AltoBajo
    Agree 100%
     
  3. AltoBajo
    You've summed the issue up extremely well.Some things,especially to do with the brains reception and perception of sound,defy logic,in this case 1s and 0s.I looked into this issue some years back,and my ears made a clear decision.I'd forgotten what a contentious subject it is!!
     
  4. AltoBajo
    You've got me worried! Does the 1A have plenty of power to drive a pair of 16 ohm rated IEMs with authority? At present I use a mains powered headphone amplifier with a Chord Qutest.They shine!
    I'm hoping for a similar result, albeit a portable solution.
     
  5. Redcarmoose
    @https://www.head-fi.org/members/altobajo.493309/

    Just make sure you click “high output” when you get it. Always try to revert back and make low power output setting your setting to stay with as many think it sounds better. But with most full-size headphones and some IEMs.... high output is required. Also the 1A is going to sound very flat and non-musical at least for the first 50-100 hours. I listened to the stores before I started using mine so I knew. But Sony recommends 200 hours. You may notice the biggest change in the first 100 hours? There may be a fraction of a percent better with desktop on my IER-Z1R IEMs. We are not actually concerned with power for loudness. What more power gets you is damping factor. His other headphones are the HD800, I’m guessing. Also he has not heard his 1Z and IER-Z1R IEMs together as he sold his 1Z before getting the IER-Z1R. He is feeling like the DMP-1Z is always going to beat out the 1Z/1A......as in reality the detail and power probably do! :)

    I use the 1A with the MDR-Z7 and MDR-Z1R. You may notice an improvement using desktop amps with the full-size headphones due to damping factor seemingly adding bass detail which sounds like more bass and a more controlled lower midrange. In reality it’s better articulations of the driver. This damping adds the final factor for imaging and soundstage. For me the Walkmans offer enough power on their own, though I prefer the TA desktop for full-size headphones. I’m pretty sure you will feel you have all the power you need.

    But the IER-Z1R IEM is incredibly hard to drive right and the 1A gets 98% there. There can always be small improvements with even more power than the DAPs provide, still it’s such a small percentage. It’s for those looking for the final small percentage difference. So I have not heard the DMP-1Z but can imagine what it may do? Still much of this also depends on synergy.......finding the correct tone can be more important than the technical effects of including that last 3% or 4% of power needed. In the end It’s all about how musical the combination is, and how close it comes to your needed sound signature. Meaning even at this level musicality still comes before technicality.
     
    Last edited: Nov 25, 2019
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  6. Redcarmoose
    Our journey is very confusing and we come across conflicting opinions. Everyone’s truth is the best they have come up with, so everyone gets their own understandable respect, still you have to go on what you believe to be true.........it’s your money, your effort, and your ears in the end. Still we can always make mistakes. Some of the perception related to health conditions can be super confusing. Basically when your the most healthy music sounds the best!
     
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  7. Lookout57
    I have the same setup WM-1A/Z -> Dock - > Carbon USB -> TA, killer setup.
     
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  8. AltoBajo
    Something people don't seem to talk about these days is synergy.When I first became interested in personal audio,around 10 years ago,synergy was always emphasised.There were far fewer products available,but matching them correctly,"warm" with "cold",was key to a good result.A Dacport with Shure 535s was pretty much top of the tree.Look at the array of products available today,as well as the prices!
    Thanks for your input,it's much appreciated!
     
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  9. ElecHires
    hello guys,
    i'm looking for some web store where i can get black friday prices on the wm1z please, does anyone know where i can get that ?
     
  10. ruthieandjohn
    Here is the link (did not appear in my version of the post):
     
  11. Bartosz
    Has anyone ever compared the 1a to the Cayin N6II ?
     
  12. SBranson

    I love these.. brings back memories of my BMI cables and my Elrods. I was a big believer in clean power when I had a 2 channel system. A buddy of mine even went off grid to batteries...
     
  13. Redcarmoose

    With the 1A and 1Z we are going off the grid to batteries, as well as having a smidge less power than desktops......but close......probably close enough for comfort?

    So in comparison to 2009, it’s like we have battery powered desktops! :)


    The DMP-Z1 is off the grid! You must have seen the Greek Audiophile video on YouTube? There may be something to it? Though the truth is some amplifiers are more susceptible to gaining benefits from clean power. Everything makes a small difference I believe.
    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvkes
     
    Last edited: Nov 26, 2019
  14. Vitaly2017

    You need to introduce into her world the grand Pa ) the Dmp 1z
    :ksc75smile::):gs1000smile:
     
  15. Whitigir
    It is DMP-Z1, not the 1Z ;P
     
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