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Show us your vintage headphones!
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Holy crap I didn't even know this existed! Fascinating...
nofarewell
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Hi All, sorry for the unusual post, didn't find anything on the net about actual quality (and haven't received an answer to my thread), so I ask here:
Victor earphones, especially the HP-L15? Any experiences, quality wise? There's one on Yahoo Japan. Sure looks amazing and I own a few amazing looking
and amazing sounding stuff from the era. If you know anything about this piece, or it's relatives, please reply. Cheers
Victor earphones, especially the HP-L15? Any experiences, quality wise? There's one on Yahoo Japan. Sure looks amazing and I own a few amazing looking
and amazing sounding stuff from the era. If you know anything about this piece, or it's relatives, please reply. Cheers
Bingturong
Previously known as VitalB
I managed to borrow a friend's HD 580. It had some work done to restore it to as stock as possible with new padding and foam as well as a general clean up.
I hate it.
I really, really hate it.
Not to beat a dead horse
But yeah, that goddamn veiled sound...
John Massaria
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Two pioneer oldies - a friend sent me to me
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I managed to borrow a friend's HD 580. It had some work done to restore it to as stock as possible with new padding and foam as well as a general clean up.
I hate it.
I really, really hate it.
Not to beat a dead horse
But yeah, that goddamn veiled sound...
Funny since it's prolly the least veiled in the line. Try it with the 3d printed grilles you can Google. I love move mine.
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When I restored my set, I got tired of giving Senn up to $50 for their OEM pads, so I invested in a set of Dekoni Elite Velours for the HD-580. Attach to a Liquid Platinum and veil be gone! And the pads won't self-destruct in 2 years.
I managed to borrow a friend's HD 580. It had some work done to restore it to as stock as possible with new padding and foam as well as a general clean up.
I hate it.
I really, really hate it.
Not to beat a dead horse
But yeah, that goddamn veiled sound...
Thomasr
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Two pioneer oldies - a friend sent me to me
Now you can listen to Iron Maiden ... with an actual Iron Maiden.
Bingturong
Previously known as VitalB
Classic pioneer vintages~
Two pioneer oldies - a friend sent me to me
Bingturong
Previously known as VitalB
Yeah I heard people say the 650 and the massdrop ones are even worseFunny since it's prolly the least veiled in the line. Try it with the 3d printed grilles you can Google. I love move mine.
I do plan on getting a HD 600 or 580 still for myself. I do think they're genuinely good, I just hate the signature. But yeah depending on the condition of what I get, I might heavily mod it, but then again at that point, I'll just enjoy my stax~When I restored my set, I got tired of giving Senn up to $50 for their OEM pads, so I invested in a set of Dekoni Elite Velours for the HD-580. Attach to a Liquid Platinum and veil be gone! And the pads won't self-destruct in 2 years.
GREQ
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Sennheiser HD580 Precision.
If you're ever feeling down, or recently made a mistake, just remember this post.
I bought it recently in a flea market, so we'll never know who the dummy is... probably better that they stay anonymous
- Overspill onto the headband - the cup + headband was glued together at one point.
I'm tempted to try some acetone to dissolve the glue, but I know that will destroy the rest of the plastic, and possibly destroy the driver and cable... both of which are still working.
Not much I can do at this point.
If you're ever feeling down, or recently made a mistake, just remember this post.
I bought it recently in a flea market, so we'll never know who the dummy is... probably better that they stay anonymous
- Overspill onto the headband - the cup + headband was glued together at one point.
I'm tempted to try some acetone to dissolve the glue, but I know that will destroy the rest of the plastic, and possibly destroy the driver and cable... both of which are still working.
Not much I can do at this point.
Bingturong
Previously known as VitalB
Omg, I hope you got it for cheap.
But yeah, acetone will destroy the plastic. I learnt that warm soapy water or vinegar would work but it will need to be soaked for sometime.
But yeah, acetone will destroy the plastic. I learnt that warm soapy water or vinegar would work but it will need to be soaked for sometime.
GREQ
Headphoneus Supremus
Oooh... I will try the vinegar.Omg, I hope you got it for cheap.
But yeah, acetone will destroy the plastic. I learnt that warm soapy water or vinegar would work but it will need to be soaked for sometime.
Would be great if I can just get the cables out, then they're pretty much serviceable.
Just got these ones in.
More pictures:
Pioneer SE-700 in absolutely amazing condition. Popped up on eBay for what would've been a very reasonable price for the headphones themselves, but this one came with an incredibly PRISTINE vinyl case with no cracks or splitting anywhere. I'm dumbfounded by that. The original paperwork sure doesn't hurt either. Sorry if you were one of the ones watching these!
These headphones debuted in 1974, and sure enough the manufacturer date is week 40, 1974. That would have been between Sept. 30 and Oct. 6, so it just had its 49th birthday a couple weeks ago.
In use the drivers want to cut in and out when I first start playing music. It's not the cable I don't think, because moving it around doesn't help. The piezoelectric drivers just seem to need to wake up, but once it's been going for a while they stay on and the center image is perfectly aligned in the middle.
These are absolute SPEED DEMONS. I'm not sure I have a more detailed headphone than this. It has a shockingly good soundstage for its age, and pinpoint imaging. Not a TON of 3D spatial variation, but it can handle complex layered tracks with the best of them, and you never lose sight of any of the instruments or elements.
But I have to talk about driving these, because you pretty much can't. These are BY FAR the hardest to drive headphones I've ever listened to. AKG K340? Cakewalk compared to these. I saw some reports online (1, 2) that showed these tested between 3.8 to 5.3 KILO ohms! Yeah, ten times greater than your typical high impedance dynamic!
I didn't believe it til I plugged them in. I think the presence of a 1/4" TRRS plug is kind of comical, because these things really need a speaker amp, and from what I read Pioneer did sell an adapter box to do just that. It nearly maxes out either of my headphone amps, neither of which are any slouch.
No sub bass to speak of. Technical limitation of the unique drivers. Online measurements also say there's nothing above ~8.5k either but I never found them lacking in the treble. Overall tonality is excellent, a bit on the bright side, but plenty of lower midrange oomph that they don't sound dry at all. I'd call it pretty true-to-life.
That speed though. Crazy detail and clarity!
More pictures:
Pioneer SE-700 in absolutely amazing condition. Popped up on eBay for what would've been a very reasonable price for the headphones themselves, but this one came with an incredibly PRISTINE vinyl case with no cracks or splitting anywhere. I'm dumbfounded by that. The original paperwork sure doesn't hurt either. Sorry if you were one of the ones watching these!
These headphones debuted in 1974, and sure enough the manufacturer date is week 40, 1974. That would have been between Sept. 30 and Oct. 6, so it just had its 49th birthday a couple weeks ago.
In use the drivers want to cut in and out when I first start playing music. It's not the cable I don't think, because moving it around doesn't help. The piezoelectric drivers just seem to need to wake up, but once it's been going for a while they stay on and the center image is perfectly aligned in the middle.
These are absolute SPEED DEMONS. I'm not sure I have a more detailed headphone than this. It has a shockingly good soundstage for its age, and pinpoint imaging. Not a TON of 3D spatial variation, but it can handle complex layered tracks with the best of them, and you never lose sight of any of the instruments or elements.
But I have to talk about driving these, because you pretty much can't. These are BY FAR the hardest to drive headphones I've ever listened to. AKG K340? Cakewalk compared to these. I saw some reports online (1, 2) that showed these tested between 3.8 to 5.3 KILO ohms! Yeah, ten times greater than your typical high impedance dynamic!
I didn't believe it til I plugged them in. I think the presence of a 1/4" TRRS plug is kind of comical, because these things really need a speaker amp, and from what I read Pioneer did sell an adapter box to do just that. It nearly maxes out either of my headphone amps, neither of which are any slouch.
No sub bass to speak of. Technical limitation of the unique drivers. Online measurements also say there's nothing above ~8.5k either but I never found them lacking in the treble. Overall tonality is excellent, a bit on the bright side, but plenty of lower midrange oomph that they don't sound dry at all. I'd call it pretty true-to-life.
That speed though. Crazy detail and clarity!
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Alright well I tried it today with my vintage mid-fi Technics SA-300 integrated reciever, and I can confirm that 35W is enough to drive the SE-700.
Maybe a tad more dynamic and there's a nifty bass control knob, but not as technically capable as my headphone amps, as expected. Still, only needed the volume at like 10-11 o'clock!
Maybe a tad more dynamic and there's a nifty bass control knob, but not as technically capable as my headphone amps, as expected. Still, only needed the volume at like 10-11 o'clock!
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