Shanling M2s Hi-Res DAP with AK4490 + MUSE8920, Bluetooth, & USB Out
Nov 9, 2017 at 8:25 PM Post #1,879 of 2,460
... and "short delay slow" has best soundstage and quality of details, unless it is placebo :L3000:
Here are some explanation from Fiio's X3. I'm think it should be the same.
http://fiio.me/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=42106

Taken from the above website if you don't want to click.
Linear phase Sharp Roll-off (AKMnotation: “no delay”): this is the “standard” sharp roll-off filter found isall DACs. It is also known as the “brickwall” filter. It is said thatpre-ringing sounds unnatural.

Linear phase Slow Roll-off (AKMnotation: “no delay”): this is also a “standard” filter found in all DACs. Asin the linear phase sharp roll-off filter, it also generates pre-ringing, buttrading lower amounts of pre-ringing with letting more aliased image through (theoretically increasing harmonic distortion).

Short delay Sharp Roll-off (AKM notation:“short delay”): this is also called the “minimum phase” or “apodizing” filterthat was the rage a few years back. Whereas in the past audio engineers have insisted in phase linearity (meaning all frequencies have equal phase ordelay), More recent research have shown that a “minimum phase” filter sacrifices some of the phase linearity (adds some phase distortion) for bettertime response. This filter removes all the “unnatural” pre-ringing but “dumps”all that energy to post-ringing. Implementation of this filter is also found inthe Wolfson WM8741/8742 DACs

Short delay Slow Roll-off (AKMnotation: “short delay”): this is a “more modern” type of filter also found inthe Wolfson WM8741/8742 DACs. In addition to eliminating pre-ringing, this filter also incorporates slow roll-off and this reduces post ringing as well.
The properties of this filter aresimilar to the "MP Filter" found in Ayres latest CD player.

Super Slow Roll-off: this filter is the differentiating feature (in terms of built-in filters) that this DAC provides. The AKM literature says “super slow roll-off filter with emphasized characteristics”(which really means nothing).
 
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Nov 9, 2017 at 9:56 PM Post #1,881 of 2,460
haha! here we go:
Custom Firmware for M2s based on v3.00: download
(this firmware already has a custom theme editing ability).

Need to try your work on my M2s ASAP :)

... and "short delay slow" has best soundstage and quality of details, unless it is placebo :L3000:

I'm also fan of Short delay slow, using it both on my M3s and M2s.
 
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Nov 10, 2017 at 1:14 AM Post #1,884 of 2,460
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Nov 10, 2017 at 2:16 AM Post #1,887 of 2,460
Since I work for Shanling, I have much more than M3s :smiling_imp:
It's understood, apologies about weird sense of humour I've got.
But since we are talking about "much more" and if it's not too much to ask...
Any plans to release a DAP based on AK4497EQ?
A hint would do nicely, the reason I'm asking is that there's at least two reasonably priced DAPs that use this DAC available now, but I would rather have AK4497EQ based DAP from Shanling than trying my luck with less reputable (or not that well known) manufacturers...
 
Nov 10, 2017 at 2:44 AM Post #1,888 of 2,460
But since we are talking about "much more" and if it's not too much to ask...
Any plans to release a DAP based on AK4497EQ?
A hint would do nicely, the reason I'm asking is that there's at least two reasonably priced DAPs that use this DAC available now, but I would rather have AK4497EQ based DAP from Shanling than trying my luck with less reputable (or not that well known) manufacturers...

Actually just listening to one device based on these higher AK DACs, will see what will come out of it...
 
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Nov 10, 2017 at 3:56 AM Post #1,889 of 2,460
Firstly, one update about Shanling situation on Head-fi/Social media. These accounts are operated by me, Frankie. Previously I was doing it on side from my main job, but since November I'm full time employee of Shanling. And with that I also moved to China. So sorry for lack of communication in past two/three weeks, but there was simply too much going on at once.

Now I'm located directly in Shanling offices, so all your comments and questions will go directly to the people that are best suited for it.

the volume on the high bit rate files goes way louder. I on high gain and most of my comfortable listening is at 70-80. When I listen to the 24bit albums I have to lower the volume to 50-60.

Do you see the same problem when you are playing the standard 16bit files without reply gain?

green version coming also?

Green version was released on Chinese market only, since this light green is currently big hit on chinese phone market, but nowhere else in the World.

since I'm currently "on the road" i would like to connect the M2s to the car's USB plug.
So how do I setup the M2s properly that it will play its music?

Most cars USB input only works as USB flash drive reader. In theory, M2s in "USB" mode should be viewed as simple flash memory by cars stereo and all control should be done on the cars system. But these systems are tricky and they are not big friends with devices more complex than USB flash drive.

When the m2s has been dormant for an extended period, such as overnight, it is very slow to start-up. Is this normal? How slow is normal?

For me, I press the power button, nothing, press and hold for 2 second, nothing, press and hold for 5 sec, nothing, repeat 2 sec hold, repeat 5 sec hold, repeat, wait, repeat repeat, wait, repeat, repeat, you get the idea... About a minute or so after the first press, the Shanling splash screen appears and everything works fine after that. Once it has been in use recently, and I need to press the power button for start up, the splash screen appears almost immediately.

Didn't experienced this on any of my M2s units. I would recommend to try reset (small hole on left side) when this problem appear.

I own it since its release.
The sound quality is great, the bass is huge.
I have no problems with my K10 and Zeus Xra ciem.

Always nice to see people using such high-end IEMs with our lower priced players.

I especially like M2s with my Noble Katana.

What's the current status on this topic? Has this been solved already??

Edit: I'm asking this since I'm also interested to get a Momentum wireless headphone.

Sennheiser Bluetooth products use unique bluetooth set up and so far we have problem with setting up our system to work with them. So far Sennheiser Bluetooth models doesn't work with Shanling players, we are trying hard to fix it, but so far no luck.

And to pause playback when bluetooth is disconnected.
Every bluetooth source I've ever experienced pauses when the speaker is switched off except the M1 and this (and probably the M3s as well, at a guess).

Thank you for input on this Bluetooth issue.

And Shanling please add options for bluetooth to set default volume by 100%
For now, any time if i use bluetooth speaker i need manually increase it to 100%, and if i use headphones i need it slow down back to 20%, is terrible.

Noted

i got a little problem with my shanling m2s...
as soon as i use it as DAC i get annoying clicks/pops. both, when i use it with my macbook or with my windows pc...

Hmmm, did you try to set it up with Wasapi on Windows?


Thanks a lot for the FW.

I already asked this to @Shanling but since there is no feedback yet maybe you can help out :)
It's about adding the album name in the lock screen and the now playing screen (see earlier post).

Will see what I can do with this.
 
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Nov 10, 2017 at 5:35 AM Post #1,890 of 2,460
Hello guys. I am new on this forum, waiting for my brand new M2s...
@Shanling :
I wonder if it would be possible in future FWs to add possibility for the DAP system, to create a small, plain text file named e.g.: .scrobbler.log which contains data about songs played on the DAP... It can be used for scrobbling the data to last.fm server by many of the 3rd party tools available for all OSes. The file format is very simple, it is fully described on the following website: http://www.audioscrobbler.net/wiki/Portable_Player_Logging.
I would be more than happy to have such a feature, also for you it would be a strong selling point I think...

Hi @Shanling and @Joe Bloggs ,
Just for the recall - is it possible to put scrobbling in the next M2s firmware or maybe it is possible to arm the HibyMusic app with this function?


Hi All,

I am a happy user of M2s for two weeks now and like other here I have a great experience with it so far.
@Shanling: one remark about font used for the GUI - the PingFang SC Regular font doesn't contain the Polish national characters and all the strings displayed (gui, song data, lyrics, etc) have bars instead of our characters (below the example):

ąćęłńóśźżĄĆĘŁŃÓŚŹŻ

Can you change the font in the next firmware release? It can be one of the open fonts from fonts.google.com like Lato or even Ubuntu - these fonts perfectly display our Polish accented characters.

Once more thanks for the great job with M2s device.
Greetings from Warsaw!
:)


@Shanling - can you also check if it is possible to change the default font used in the M2s firmware? Polish accented characters still doesn't display correctly. You can use the font from @XVortex ROM - all characters are perfect in that case.

Thank you very much for your great support for all of us on this forum! :ksc75smile:
 

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