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Hello,
I brought this up in another thread (and JK1 provided me with a lot of helpful info), but I thought I would start a new thread for it with a related title in order to get more impressions from PX100II owners.
Background: I am new to "not complete crap" headphones. I am trying out the Koss KSC75 and the PORTAPRO drivers to be played on my Samsung Galaxy S2 using Poweramp (sounds awesome btw). I will be keeping one set of the drivers, and putting them on a price-express cheapo headband (I think I will like it better than the ksc75 earclips, or the portapro headband).
BUT I may very well get another headphone set down the road because I am getting addicted (no thanks to this site!). I am interested in the Yuin G2A's (most likely on the cheapo headband), and the Sennheiser PX100II.
Considering that I am enjoying both the KSC75 and the PORTAPRO's (and having a hard time deciding which ones to keep!), this might indicate that I like "warmer" sounding headphones. Therefore I might be leaning towards the PX100II over the G2A. I think that I might also prefer a larger soundstage.
Generally, the reviews for the PX100II are VERY positive, and I am tempted to get the PX100II based solely on them.
But below are some not so positive snippets from the amazon.com reviews. Possibly the people who were complaining about the bass didn't properly break them in. At any rate, if there are any owners out there who can provide me with their impressions, that would be great. If the PX100II is not substantially better than the Koss drivers, then maybe it wouldn't be worth it for me to get the PX100II.
Thanks!
http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-100-II-Ear-Miniheadphone-Black/product-reviews/B002VPDOH8/ref=cm_cr_pr_top_link_1?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0
"sonically, I find them worse compared to the original--they sound slow, congested and have an accentuated upper-bass. I found the original PX100 to be the most detailed and balanced portable headphones available. With the PX100-II the detail is still there, however, it's no longer as natural sounding or as exciting. The sound slow and have an overly thick texture. The tonal character is a little overly warm as well, no surprise given the boosted upper-bass."
"Now, due to the thicker headband the phones are less comfortable to lay around your neck when not in use and are now even more uncomfortable to try and slip underneath a hat or a beanie."
"I always found the PortaPros to be slightly more present and detailed than the original PX-100s at any rate... so you can still go that route. I wasn't impressed with my PX-100's, relatively speaking - I was looking forward to trying these PX-100-II's since they won a comparison in a review with the Porta-Pros, but your review is giving me hesitation."
"It could be that I just need to break them in, but they seem heavier on my ears (I think the ear foam is more substantial) and more rigid. I'm not sure I like the feel as well as my old Sennheisers. It may just be a matter of getting used to them."
"Second, they've done something to make the headphones much less comfortable if you wear them for an extended period of time. I don't know if it's the weight in general or a change in the padding, but you can wear these for about an hour before you'll want to pull them off. I never had any problem at all as far as comfort with the previous model."
"Bass: This is where I find total fault with the headphone. It is a bass heavy little headphone. Not punchy overwhelming bass but rather kind of dirty bass that seeps in and colors the midrange on some songs and on other songs is just too slow to add any sort of dynamic drive to the music. It will seem to lag behind and sound out of place. It will also color the vocals of male voices making them not believable. I love a lot of mid-bass output BUT the output on these headphones is too upfront and just lacks clarity. It serves to detract from music rather than add to it.
Of note: the bass spectrum extends very low and is good at reproducing the deepest sounds (but this does not impress me all that much because of it's drawbacks.)
Break-in helped a lot with the bass so don't toss these headphones as soon as you plug them in and listen. Give them some time and you will come to a place where it will be tolerable for about 95% of your music. For the most part, it stays out of the way."
"I have the first generation PX100's and I decide to buy and try these. The new second gen PX100 are not nearly as good as the first gen! The highs and mids are recessed. These have more bass, but the bass is over bearing and not as tight as the first gen. PX100. I am really disappointed. I love my first gen. PX100's."
"A decent headphone, but I'd pay twice as much to have the old PX100. The sound signature is inferior - more treble, less mid-bass and less punch. Just a disappointing buy."
"The original PX-100s were great, lightweight, and a great natural sound. For the replacement, they decided to boost the so now instead of a flat natural sound, all you here is boom boom boom, which is tiring, and even hearts your ears if you listen to loud rock music. Most people compare these to the Koss Portapro headphones. Before I would say get the PX-100s because the construction is better and the sound quality is about the same, but now there is no comparison, get the Portapros, these sound lousy."
I brought this up in another thread (and JK1 provided me with a lot of helpful info), but I thought I would start a new thread for it with a related title in order to get more impressions from PX100II owners.
Background: I am new to "not complete crap" headphones. I am trying out the Koss KSC75 and the PORTAPRO drivers to be played on my Samsung Galaxy S2 using Poweramp (sounds awesome btw). I will be keeping one set of the drivers, and putting them on a price-express cheapo headband (I think I will like it better than the ksc75 earclips, or the portapro headband).
BUT I may very well get another headphone set down the road because I am getting addicted (no thanks to this site!). I am interested in the Yuin G2A's (most likely on the cheapo headband), and the Sennheiser PX100II.
Considering that I am enjoying both the KSC75 and the PORTAPRO's (and having a hard time deciding which ones to keep!), this might indicate that I like "warmer" sounding headphones. Therefore I might be leaning towards the PX100II over the G2A. I think that I might also prefer a larger soundstage.
Generally, the reviews for the PX100II are VERY positive, and I am tempted to get the PX100II based solely on them.
But below are some not so positive snippets from the amazon.com reviews. Possibly the people who were complaining about the bass didn't properly break them in. At any rate, if there are any owners out there who can provide me with their impressions, that would be great. If the PX100II is not substantially better than the Koss drivers, then maybe it wouldn't be worth it for me to get the PX100II.
Thanks!
http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-100-II-Ear-Miniheadphone-Black/product-reviews/B002VPDOH8/ref=cm_cr_pr_top_link_1?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0
"sonically, I find them worse compared to the original--they sound slow, congested and have an accentuated upper-bass. I found the original PX100 to be the most detailed and balanced portable headphones available. With the PX100-II the detail is still there, however, it's no longer as natural sounding or as exciting. The sound slow and have an overly thick texture. The tonal character is a little overly warm as well, no surprise given the boosted upper-bass."
"Now, due to the thicker headband the phones are less comfortable to lay around your neck when not in use and are now even more uncomfortable to try and slip underneath a hat or a beanie."
"I always found the PortaPros to be slightly more present and detailed than the original PX-100s at any rate... so you can still go that route. I wasn't impressed with my PX-100's, relatively speaking - I was looking forward to trying these PX-100-II's since they won a comparison in a review with the Porta-Pros, but your review is giving me hesitation."
"It could be that I just need to break them in, but they seem heavier on my ears (I think the ear foam is more substantial) and more rigid. I'm not sure I like the feel as well as my old Sennheisers. It may just be a matter of getting used to them."
"Second, they've done something to make the headphones much less comfortable if you wear them for an extended period of time. I don't know if it's the weight in general or a change in the padding, but you can wear these for about an hour before you'll want to pull them off. I never had any problem at all as far as comfort with the previous model."
"Bass: This is where I find total fault with the headphone. It is a bass heavy little headphone. Not punchy overwhelming bass but rather kind of dirty bass that seeps in and colors the midrange on some songs and on other songs is just too slow to add any sort of dynamic drive to the music. It will seem to lag behind and sound out of place. It will also color the vocals of male voices making them not believable. I love a lot of mid-bass output BUT the output on these headphones is too upfront and just lacks clarity. It serves to detract from music rather than add to it.
Of note: the bass spectrum extends very low and is good at reproducing the deepest sounds (but this does not impress me all that much because of it's drawbacks.)
Break-in helped a lot with the bass so don't toss these headphones as soon as you plug them in and listen. Give them some time and you will come to a place where it will be tolerable for about 95% of your music. For the most part, it stays out of the way."
"I have the first generation PX100's and I decide to buy and try these. The new second gen PX100 are not nearly as good as the first gen! The highs and mids are recessed. These have more bass, but the bass is over bearing and not as tight as the first gen. PX100. I am really disappointed. I love my first gen. PX100's."
"A decent headphone, but I'd pay twice as much to have the old PX100. The sound signature is inferior - more treble, less mid-bass and less punch. Just a disappointing buy."
"The original PX-100s were great, lightweight, and a great natural sound. For the replacement, they decided to boost the so now instead of a flat natural sound, all you here is boom boom boom, which is tiring, and even hearts your ears if you listen to loud rock music. Most people compare these to the Koss Portapro headphones. Before I would say get the PX-100s because the construction is better and the sound quality is about the same, but now there is no comparison, get the Portapros, these sound lousy."