Sennheiser HD 700 Impressions Thread
Jan 6, 2022 at 5:05 PM Post #9,033 of 9,298
Wondering if the Chinese pleather pads on the headphones changes the sound as I have not heard them with the original pads.
I would imagine to some degree they do being the stock pads are velour.
 
Jan 10, 2022 at 9:46 PM Post #9,034 of 9,298
Most likely a $50 cable would be noticeable Sonic downgrade from stock, but you might like a different length or different touch-feel to the cable. Ymmv, but for me a $50 third party HD 700 cable is a great way to throw away $50.
I've had a different experience with most $50 cables sounding better than the stock ones along with better lengths and better ergonomics or "touch-feel" as you call it. I also noted that cables that I've built (under $50 for parts) to be better sonically and ergonomically and I haven't heard any issues with cables that I've built for others.
As for the stock cable of the HD700, it was probably the worst of the stock cables ergonomically since it was a twisted mess from day one and never got better no matter what I tried.
 
Jan 17, 2022 at 8:28 PM Post #9,035 of 9,298
Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but i'll give it a go.
Do anyone have any recommendations of headphones similar to HD700 but with deeper/more punchy bass?
So do you want the same tonality as the HD700 but with superior bass quality? I'd recommend Focal's lineup but their tonality is vastly different from the HD700. In my opinion it's a better tonality that doesn't require EQ.
 
Jan 18, 2022 at 12:06 AM Post #9,036 of 9,298
So after I helped this guy with his HD700 questions in this thread:

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/hd700-worth-buying-in-2022.961660/

I realized how misunderstood the HD700 is. This is not just for casual listeners, but also critical listeners and the manufacturer themselves. Casual listeners think of the HD700 as a mini-HD800, while critical listeners think of the HD700 as a mini-HD600. Sennheiser thought of the HD700 as a cut-down HD800 that would also be a stepping stone for their advancement into the HD6XX (which is why they also approved of this name for Drop products) series, which became the HD660S. Couple this manufacturer's marketing plan with the 21st century's first global pandemic, and we can see where this was really leading.

No, I am not trying to be facetious towards Sennheiser and how they have been planning things. After all, other conglomerates, like Intel, are also selling off certain divisions to other companies to get back some earnings. I just had to face the fact that I could not live without the HD700 in a global-pandemic-affected-world and now I can see why. Yeah, many casual listeners really wanted the HD700 to sound more like an HD800 in terms of soundstage, but the HD8XX (hey, there goes another manufacturer-approved name for future Drop products) series is still one of the toughest in finding its synergy. This entails critical listeners to feel like the HD700 is really a mini-HD600, where the soundstage is intimate, but you have to cut down on the treble to really make it a daily listener and there goes all of the lush mids and sub-bass, so really it is a mini-HD600.

For me, it took owning a Light Harmonic Geek Pulse X-Fi with LPS and have to baby that setup in storage and buy an HD800 to see how much I really just wanted a HD700 all along, all while many backers continued to groan about where their promised product was (many backers have given up now, while Light Harmonic makes new speaker systems for Teslas). Yeah, it took a global pandemic for me to finally set up the LH Geek Pulse X-Fi with its LPS with the HD800 and hear what synergy that David Ho (I think that was him) was looking for in making an amp that could power his HD800. Then, and only then, could I see why Sennheiser created the HD700 as a cut-down HD800 and eventually a stepping stone for their HD660S. After all, I did tell one of their CanJam@RMAF representatives in 2014 that I still thought that the HD250-series was still the best closed-backs that Sennheiser ever offered and that I wondered if there was a closed HD800 coming soon.

Yeah, the HD820 came out in 2018, but it was to the dismay of many critical listeners and it eventually led Axel Grell to resign from Sennheiser in 2019 and make his own company after Sennheiser sold their consumer products division in 2021. There was my tipping point in jumping off the fence and finally getting a HD700, which was the sale of Sennheiser's consumer products division to Sonova, who also bought out Phonak in 2012 and basically dissolved the company from consumer existence. Even then, I was wondering why I bought this thing; after all, I only like listening to the HD700 with a FiiO e12, which was discontinued and I sold my amp a long time ago. I had to listen to the X-Fi stack with the HD800 balanced for a while to get how to HD700, and the fit-and-finish was horrible with the aftermarket real lambskin earpads that I bought for it, as the inner earcup covers could not fit together.

Alas, I finally get to my point of helping the guy in the thread above and I realize that the darn small HD700 earcups and earpads really are not orthogonally-shaped like HD800 earcups and earpads, even when inverted, and that I had to adjust the notches by two-or-three steps for the perfect fit. Well, I did have to get a special 2.5mm-to-4.4mm cable with the "special" HD700 earcup connector notches to ship from China and listen to the X-Fi stack balanced, but I finally hear the taut-and-airy-impactful bass, lush mids, and focused treble that I wanted the whole time. I can now remember all of the unique times I had connecting with people throughout my life before this global pandemic began through the tracks that I hear. Of course, a bunch of the stuff above seems confusing, but that is really how things have been as I have been trying to figure out all that I was hearing with the HD700. Now back to listening. :)
 
Jan 18, 2022 at 6:58 AM Post #9,038 of 9,298
I would like to change the earpads, on my HD700.
Where could I but it ?
I mean good quality earpads, not thoose we can find on Aliexpress :wink:
 
Jan 18, 2022 at 8:49 AM Post #9,039 of 9,298
I would like to change the earpads, on my HD700.
Where could I but it ?
I mean good quality earpads, not thoose we can find on Aliexpress :wink:
Dekoni Audio in the US. Very good quality but not cheap--depending on type (velour, leather, hybrid) they run around $60-80 USD for the HD700. They ship internationally, but I have no idea what the final price with shipping/taxes/customs might be outside the US. They all change the sound somewhat; I got the velour, which has the least effect on sound, after my original pads tore.

Oh, and to pbui44 above (I don't want to quote the long post), I've never heard the HD700 called a mini-HD600. I have the HD6XX (though it is rarely used) and it sounds nothing like the the HD700.

 
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Jan 18, 2022 at 9:20 AM Post #9,040 of 9,298
I regret selling my HD700 to this day, but haven't found a pair at a price I want to pay for getting another set. Someday I might own these again, I really enjoyed them.
 
Jan 19, 2022 at 4:42 PM Post #9,041 of 9,298
I would like to change the earpads, on my HD700.
Where could I but it ?
I mean good quality earpads, not thoose we can find on Aliexpress :wink:

I bought my HD700 sheepskin leather ear pads on ebay US and it was shipped from the UK, but I could not find another link on ebay FR, so here are some MisoDiko HD700 sheepskin leather earpads on AliExpress (authentic MisoDiko and real sheepskin leather, I am sure :wink: ):

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002584148918.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000014.30.390552f4okv9a8&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.40050.266918.0&scm_id=1007.40050.266918.0&scm-url=1007.40050.266918.0&pvid=12ed774a-e42b-4150-a14b-7cf4d2a3152c&_t=gps-id:pcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller,scm-url:1007.40050.266918.0,pvid:12ed774a-e42b-4150-a14b-7cf4d2a3152c,tpp_buckets:668#2846#8114#1999&&pdp_ext_f={"sceneId":"30050","sku_id":"12000021265885839"}&compareFields=formatted_price:US $26.95;itemId:1005002584148918;freight_formatted_price:null;source:recommend-ump;is_freeshipping:null;trade_order:5

Oh, and to pbui44 above (I don't want to quote the long post), I've never heard the HD700 called a mini-HD600. I have the HD6XX (though it is rarely used) and it sounds nothing like the the HD700.

Yes, the HD6XX sounds nothing like the HD700, but the HD6XX does not sound much like a HD600 either. People have said that the HD600 is superior to the HD700 from the lack of a treble spike, more smooth sound signature, and better neutrality overall, like how people have said that the HD800 is superior to the HD700. Hence, they see the HD700 like a mini-HD600 and mini-HD800. You really have to dissect the HD700's sound signature by dissecting the HD800's sound signature from their earcup meshing, which is made from the same material. I had to buy sheepskin leather earpads (which I later learned was a PU-leather/sheepskin-leather hybrid :frowning2: ) for my HD800 to make the sound signature more tonal with a much more coherent soundstage, before making the HD700 the same and figuring out how the HD700 was supposed to fit consistently.

Edit: @Idol77, I think I found the same ear pads that I bought...at a much cheaper price :frowning2: :

https://www.ebay.fr/itm/31363219907...BWdG0rPSFJo6UKhAtqnF|ampid:PL_CLK|clp:2563228
 
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Jan 20, 2022 at 5:54 AM Post #9,042 of 9,298
Jan 23, 2022 at 12:54 AM Post #9,043 of 9,298
Well, the HD700 does need your amp to warm up quicker than the HD800, but when you readjust, the mids are so airy, impactful, and wonderful...like the HD700 is a Corvette C8 in headphone form:

Matched with a perfect DAC/Amp.
graphic c8.jpg


Not with a decent DAC/Amp.
wrecked c8.jpg


Wait...Corvettes have their engines in the back, now????
c8-corvette-falls-off-car-lift-thankfully-nobody-was-hurt-157458_1.jpg


Yeah, just let Drop deal with these.
fleet damaged c8.jpg
 
Feb 9, 2022 at 8:06 AM Post #9,045 of 9,298
Have any of you tried the Audioquest Nightbird cable on these? Found one at a great price and wondering whether they would fit the HD 700's.
Cheers
-j.

If the 2.5mm connectors don’t have that special side “notch” that lets them fit into place within the “proprietary” HD700 side connectors, then no.
 

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