Schiit Lyr Tube Rollers
Jun 20, 2019 at 8:59 AM Post #22,006 of 23,494
Jun 20, 2019 at 9:02 AM Post #22,007 of 23,494
Well, it looks like I have to eat crow, on this comment. :wink: The Mullard is to good, to only have 1 backup. The search continues. . .

Newbie tube roller: one pair
Intermediate tube roller: backup for the pair
Advanced tube roller: backup for the backup pair
Extreme tube Roller: backup for the backup for the backup pair
@Ripper2860 tube roller: too many backups to count without a Price Waterhouse auditor in-house

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Jun 20, 2019 at 9:15 AM Post #22,009 of 23,494
Finally got around to trying the Amperex 7316 1959 D getters. With the 6XX I was decidedly unimpressed, especially coming off the Valvo PWs. I’ll have to try them again with different headphones but if they still sound drab and dull they’re going back on the market.
 
Jun 20, 2019 at 9:24 AM Post #22,010 of 23,494
Finally got around to trying the Amperex 7316 1959 D getters. With the 6XX I was decidedly unimpressed, especially coming off the Valvo PWs. I’ll have to try them again with different headphones but if they still sound drab and dull they’re going back on the market.
You need to listen to @bcowen GE tubes first, then you can listen to the 7316 again and be impressed.
 
Jun 20, 2019 at 12:01 PM Post #22,011 of 23,494
Thanks for the info! How is the bass, on those tubes? I am super treble sensitive, so not sure they are for me.
Bass is nice and controlled. I'd say average for amount of bass, not going to shake the house down...
 
Jun 20, 2019 at 12:54 PM Post #22,013 of 23,494
The Tubemongers are in, the 12A*7 to ECC88 adapters. Got 2 pair for both my amps. Helped big time with my very micro 59 6201 PW pair.

Not sure that these adapters would eliminate ALL microphonics, but taking a very microphonic tube and toning it down is a big step!
I tried these TM adapters with 5 pairs of 12AU7 in the LP and am pleased with their performance.
 
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Jun 20, 2019 at 4:18 PM Post #22,014 of 23,494
You need to listen to @bcowen GE tubes first, then you can listen to the 7316 again and be impressed.

I can make an absolute guarantee: any tube you listen to after a GE will sound glorious. Well, I mean if you listen to the GE after listening to a Philips blue label ECG. Yeah, then. :relaxed:

Seriously, the Amperex 7316 sounded righteous in a long departed Cary preamp. It was also pretty nice in the Vali 2, although not my top pick in that amp. In the Lyr 3? Pretty meh at best. Seems to be either highly amp dependent or 'phone dependent, or possibly I just can't hear worth a schiit anymore. Nah, can't be that.
 
Jun 20, 2019 at 4:43 PM Post #22,015 of 23,494
I can make an absolute guarantee: any tube you listen to after a GE will sound glorious. Well, I mean if you listen to the GE after listening to a Philips blue label ECG. Yeah, then. :relaxed:

Seriously, the Amperex 7316 sounded righteous in a long departed Cary preamp. It was also pretty nice in the Vali 2, although not my top pick in that amp. In the Lyr 3? Pretty meh at best. Seems to be either highly amp dependent or 'phone dependent, or possibly I just can't hear worth a schiit anymore. Nah, can't be that.
All this bad 7316 talk is bad news for some sellers, please edit your post to be more 7316 friendly. Seriously been doing some comparisons with the same year 1958 7316 and 1958 D-getter 6922. 7316 hands down. Same with 59 7316 (crappy short plates) vs 1959 D-getter Heerlen E88CC. 7316 winner again. The E88CC/6922 while an awsome tube is dull and lifeless in comparison.
 
Jun 20, 2019 at 4:50 PM Post #22,016 of 23,494
All this bad 7316 talk is bad news for some sellers, please edit your post to be more 7316 friendly. Seriously been doing some comparisons with the same year 1958 7316 and 1958 D-getter 6922. 7316 hands down. Same with 59 7316 (crappy short plates) vs 1959 D-getter Heerlen E88CC. 7316 winner again. The E88CC/6922 while an awsome tube is dull and lifeless in comparison.
I have the 7316 long plates in now. More layers than an onion! They have so much depth that you could almost walk right into them.
 
Jun 20, 2019 at 5:09 PM Post #22,017 of 23,494
I have the 7316 long plates in now. More layers than an onion! They have so much depth that you could almost walk right into them.
That sounds like fun!
 
Jun 20, 2019 at 5:17 PM Post #22,018 of 23,494
You guys............jb77, TK16, bcowen, mattrudy80, Ripper2860, koover (as well as MANY others) have been the pioneers in buying good bad or so-so tubes all along the way.

I figured it was time for me to make an oddball purchase and report back. After seeing yesterday post from fotomeow about the 'sale' price I bought a pair of the Black Stealth Tele G73R. I was willing to spend $300 on this pair but not the full price of $800!!!

I have no idea if they are any better than the Tele smooth plate 12AU7 I have or the ultra hyped ECC802S (that I do NOT have) but we will see!

Special thanks to fotomeow for posting the Tube Depot sale.
 
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Jun 20, 2019 at 5:20 PM Post #22,019 of 23,494
You guys............jb77, TK16, bcowen, mattrudy80, Ripper2860, koover have been the pioneers in buying good bad or so-so tubes all along the way. I figured it was time for me to make a purchase and report back. After seeing yesterday post from fotomeow I bought a pair of the Black Stealth Tele G73R.
Way to take one for the team!
 
Jun 20, 2019 at 5:21 PM Post #22,020 of 23,494
You guys............jb77, TK16, bcowen, mattrudy80, Ripper2860, koover have been the pioneers in buying good bad or so-so tubes all along the way. I figured it was time for me to make a purchase and report back. After seeing yesterday post from fotomeow I bought a pair of the Black Stealth Tele G73R.
I`m working on the spray painting of the Tele ECC82 smooth plates, would of cost you about $20 less too.
 

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