dailydoseofdaly
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Sorry yeah I have the socket savers from tubemonger in to give the tubes a boost
My LCD 2's are rev2's--wish i could figure out this hum though....
Jack
Sorry yeah I have the socket savers from tubemonger in to give the tubes a boost
IE M Crazy-I will give it my best shot--
Previously by far my favorite tubes were the Nationals with my LCD 2's-now having listened to the Mullards for about 5 hours-remember they are used so I have no idea how many hours there are on them and barring the slight background hum which I do not hear while playing music I find them to be more open, slightly wider soundstage, more bass impact and overall clearer & cleaner & smoother, with the vocals more up front in my head---seems to have brought my LCD2's to a different level where as my other tube rolling (all 3 ****t variations some other 6b7's & the Nationals) just seemed to alter things slightly....
Overall a step up in the total aural experience for me....Liking them a whole lot with the LCD2's
Just don't get what the hum is all about though!!
Jack
I bought a few pairs {about 10?} on ebay,and I find them very good ..on the Lyr,with both the Lcd's & hd650's..I will let the tech report to a more learned member. {MrRogers...& MrScary.....anyone?}
Prices on ebay are all over the map.
Today ordered another pair from Brent Jesse.these are not the clear tops.....,I am curious about the Blackplates...I've heard,that some users believe that they give better SQ...also..I may be mistaken,but I think they were made in the mid 50's??..please correct me on this..
With my chain,I have been listening to them ,on & off for about 2 weeks,and I'm very impressed SQ,& Prices.
Of course now,prices will start to shoot up...
Well, you can try some Gold Lions, Amperex, Mullard CV2493's, Nationals as stated above a few post.
I'd honestly say you're not missing out on that much or enough to really worry about it. If you're liking what you're hearing with the tubes you've rolled, that's awesome!
I personally feel the Mullards are the best quality tubes that don't break the bank I.e Siemens, Lorenz.
Well a friend of mine wanted some inexpensive tubes but descent tubes and he has closed phones so he tried a bunch of mine that I lent him.. only the ones 100.00 or less
so he really like the Amperex Large O getters.. So I went on a quest to find some cheap wasn't giving him mine I like them sometimes hahaha.. So I found a set for a steal
so I order them from ebay the guy sends them and they are so jacked up that there is a funny color light in them hahah serious.. So I contact him yell well not yell but
escalate to him how unhappy I am in a very very mean way... So he apologizes says to send the tubes back so I say "NO" I say you send me tubes first or I will reverse the charges
on the card.. hahah me no play... Anway so he says "Well Im going to send you some extra tubes these are so great" So he send's the replacements I slap them in the Lyr they are fine burn them in over night contact by buddy and just give them to him hes a good guy.. Anyway so I finally decided to see what these suprise tubes are so I open up the the tubes now this guy doesn't just wrap tubes I mean he basically had wire around them no joke first they were wrapped in some bizzarre mesh of white stuff then taped with duct tape.. Then put in a plastic bag then rubber bands were around them then he put this weird as heck metal thing around them then taped them again.. So it takes me seriously like 10 minutes to get them out.. And what do i see Toshiba tubes..
So I think hmmmm.. So I put them in the Lyr let them warm up maybe 10 minutes then put on my LCD's first well what I hear is something like between a Russian 6N1p a Brimar that is on fire and
some JJ's.. well that lasted about 2 songs... so beware of suprises hahahaha...
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How do you think the socket savers boost the tubes? just curious I mean I have had mine god over a year I dont think they boost mine.. at all.. What are they boosting the only thing that is good about them is taking out tubes I mean since I play guitar my finger tips are so callused that I just grab hot tubes and remove them I don't even wait for them to cool down but them being out of the case of the Lyr in theory they run a bit cooler so I guess maybe the cooler temperature may increase life span how much who knows... but boost any other way is tomtrickery
The idea of socket savers doesn't agree with me. The idea of the tube sticking out so far means to me more chance of knocking something into them accidentally and breaking the tube, the amp, or both. Plus ading mixed metals between the pins doesn't sound to me like they'd help SQ at all. There were some pages a few eons ago I think on this thread where a miswired socket saver was frying nice tubes. I use a tube glove so removing tubes is no problem at all as-is, and the SS sounds almost worse since you'd have to hold it down with a stick so it doesn't just pop out with the tube anyway.
But the worst that I've never been able to deduce is heat. You said ti may run cooler which sounds like a good deal, but does it actually reduce heat? Sure its away from the transformer and MOSFETS, but since the chassis is little more than a gigantic heat sink, wouldn't keeping the tubes closer to the sink actually pull heat away from them more than leaving them exposed in dead air?
The idea of socket savers doesn't agree with me. The idea of the tube sticking out so far means to me more chance of knocking something into them accidentally and breaking the tube, the amp, or both. Plus ading mixed metals between the pins doesn't sound to me like they'd help SQ at all. There were some pages a few eons ago I think on this thread where a miswired socket saver was frying nice tubes. I use a tube glove so removing tubes is no problem at all as-is, and the SS sounds almost worse since you'd have to hold it down with a stick so it doesn't just pop out with the tube anyway.
But the worst that I've never been able to deduce is heat. You said ti may run cooler which sounds like a good deal, but does it actually reduce heat? Sure its away from the transformer and MOSFETS, but since the chassis is little more than a gigantic heat sink, wouldn't keeping the tubes closer to the sink actually pull heat away from them more than leaving them exposed in dead air?
10 Pairs of what Mike sorry I have been busy have not had a chance to hang around dong alot session work and mixing and with my Day time job Im going nutz?
That may be a good point but I think most people here are careful with their prized possessions. Plus they do look much nicer when you're fully able to see the glow. ( I don't use these)
I believe that instance was isolated, I have not heard of any other damages linked with using socket savers. (Wasn't there also incidents with triode flippers?)
I used SS and didn't find it to reduce heat enough to a noticeable degree. Same thing applies when raising the Lyr with different feet. Plus
tube amps are suppose to run hot, so I just let it do its thing.