[Armaegis]

None of them need amping. They all drive very very easily. For hip hop, the MS400 is probably your best bet.

 

[swbf2cheater]

looks like phiaton took all my advice and put the ms400 in the ps320 body style.  Holy crap that is sexy as all hell if that is real or if the seller just used the ps320 pic? meh :\
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/Phiaton-MS-400-Moderna-Studio-Headphone-MS400-BLACK-NEW-/330504006135?pt=Other_MP3_Player_Accessories&hash=item4cf392e9f7#ht_3958wt_932
 
anywho, the ms400 runs beautifully off just a fuze and clip alone so its very easy to drive

 

[Armaegis]

That pic is the PS500... not the black MS400.

 

[swbf2cheater]

awww, I got excited for a minute when i saw it...I was like WAIT WHATTTT then my dreams were crushed

 

[Armaegis]

Updated the first post.
 
Any other categories I should add to the table?
 
I think I should still write a bit about each one individually, rather that purely comparative. I've still got pictures that I need to insert as well.

 

[Armaegis]

Updated. More notes on sound and modding, tons of pictures.

 

[Sccrfreak342]

Very good and detailed review. I've been checking out Phiaton for my first real pair of headphones, but I'm not sure exactly what I want yet.
 
Has anyone tried both the MS 400's and the PS 320's and can give a quick comparison? The PS 320's are about $30 cheaper on Amazon than the MS 400's.

 

[priest]

I think I like the MS 400 about as much as everyone else here, but I've got this strange rattling type sound in the left earcup, which I can basically only hear when the music is over. Not happening in the right earcup. I am hesitant to open up and look in, because I'm still in the return period. Has anyone experienced this, or heard about it before? I couldn't find any mention of it elsewere, so I assume I have a loose screw or piece of plastic or something. Any feedback would be appreciated.

 

[Armaegis]

There's a rattling when there's no music playing? So if you shake it there's a rattle? If that's the case it's almost certainly a loose bit somewhere. You can easily take the earpad assembly off just to take a look, though if you're still within the return period then just get a new one.

 

[priest]

 
Quote:

There's a rattling when there's no music playing? So if you shake it there's a rattle? If that's the case it's almost certainly a loose bit somewhere. You can easily take the earpad assembly off just to take a look, though if you're still within the return period then just get a new one.

Thanks. When you put it that way, is seems so obvious. Exchange them I shall, unless this is a common problem. Like the D7000 hanging off its pins. 

 

[Armaegis]

The only other complaint I've heard was someone complaining about buzzing, but it just turned out to be a hair stuck near the driver.

 

[priest]

Of course, when I put them on tonight, the rattling or whatever appears to be gone. So I'm happy again. No idea what that was about, and so I thought I should post to make sure Phiaton's build quality isn't called into question by my remark.
 
I am also amping them for the first time, with my A1, and they sound ridiculous. I never would have imagined they would respond this well to external amping, but they do. They are easily the equal of any closed full-size headphone I can think of, other than the D7000 and the Edition 8. I actually think they might work better in this configuration than as a portable.

 

[Silverflash]

Hm, I'm somewhat torn between the MS 300 and the MS 400... the 300 sounds like it fits what I'm looking for a bit more, but since I wear glasses this talk of clamping down too hard is concerning, not to mention to apparently nasal sounding mids. While I don't care about bass all that much and hate the double-side cord, the MS 400 may be better if only for the larger cup size and perhaps better sound while gaming.
 
I dunno. How bad is the clamping issue on the MS 300's really?

 

[Armaegis]

The MS300 were not nasally to my ears.
 
Pretty much all supraaural sets will give you a bit of clamp and press on the ears into glasses. The MS300 isn't that bad though. If I had to rank it from 1-10 (with 1 being the PX100 that's nearly nothing, and the AKG K81 at 10 which clamps like a vice), I would put the MS300 at about 3 or 4. I have a wide head, and I can wear the MS300 for maybe 30-45 minutes before adjusting them. The MS400 are sort of a tradeoff, with larger cups which spread the pressure out, but they also press more on the upper tip of the ear which pushes into the glasses. The MS300 can be positioned a little lower and not have that issue.
 
So yeah... I can't answer for you either way. Pick whether you want a smaller set with single sided cord, or a bigger one with more boom in the bass.

 

[Silverflash]

Thanks, that was helpful. Probably going to be ordering the MS 300 tomorrow.