Aug 11, 2013 at 10:30 PM Post #2,611 of 7,021
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Aug 11, 2013 at 10:34 PM Post #2,613 of 7,021
I think that someone said that those were fakes. You can get the Ortos from Musica. I lucked out cause Cn11 just happened to have some spares for me when we met up. The Ortos are definitely my favorite tips for the G-2. Really opens up the sound. They can sound narrow, compressed and sibilant when listening thru tips like Sony hybrids
 
Aug 11, 2013 at 10:34 PM Post #2,614 of 7,021
Aug 11, 2013 at 10:45 PM Post #2,615 of 7,021
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Listening to the Flat-4 now. First tentative impressions: treble spike. It actually reminds me a lot of the JVC FXD80, only with even more emphasis at~5k and ~8k. It's pretty difficult to avoid the harshness. I need to listen at a much lower volume than I typically would with the ER4S. I settled on medium DBA-02 tips which stretch nicely over the barrel of the Flat-4 and seem to take a little of the edge off for me. Mids are what sound most similar to the FXD80 from memory, present and detailed, but definitely behind the treble and bass. The shallow fit also reminds me of that JVC line. 
 
The Flat-4's cable is absolutely amazing. It's like the CK10 cable, with a lot of pliability, ample thickness and weight, but a little more slick, which makes it even less tangle prone imo. 
 
Now first impressions of the IE800: MUCH better. Definitely hear the dip in the mids, and they're a bit warmer because of having less 2k-5k emphasis than something like the ER4S or F111. Somehow it seems to work on the IE800 though, and vocals don't sound recessed, even on tracks known to have less vocal emphasis. Surprising! Even boosting 3k didn't sound quite right for some reason. I don't think it works with the treble peaks. 
 
The biggest treble peak isn't until above 10k to my ears, which allows the IE800 to avoid harshness imo. It's a little peaky overall, but definitely nowhere near the Flat-4 to my ears. Cymbals can have a tendency to sound brittle, with the right shimmer but not enough body.  
 
Compared the ER4S, the IE800 is massively different. The ety is much more "open" and much more detailed. The IE800 moves more slowly, with a bigger soundstage, and just a totally different goal with it's sound. 
 
More to come in a few days.

Sorry if I'm late to this dance.  To which Flat 4 are you referring?  I'm assuming the SUI, given the thread title?
 
Aug 11, 2013 at 11:21 PM Post #2,616 of 7,021
Yep, SUI.
 
Aug 11, 2013 at 11:49 PM Post #2,617 of 7,021
Aug 11, 2013 at 11:52 PM Post #2,618 of 7,021
There goes the mad genius (aka: Dale) and ..... girls!! Nice!  
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As great as our mad genius is, I obviously picked the wrong one to have my picture taken with.....
 
Aug 12, 2013 at 12:03 AM Post #2,619 of 7,021
Aug 12, 2013 at 12:11 AM Post #2,620 of 7,021
Yeah, I remembered that I have some of those, but only a few pairs. Thanks for the link, ordered.


The clear ones, right?


Yup, they only make them in clear. I should really just order a set instead of hovering over them lol.
 
Aug 12, 2013 at 1:10 AM Post #2,621 of 7,021
Eke, here's a short set of impressions for your front page linkage from another thread, full context.


Tried the ASG2 in AV Show in Hong Kong. I will assume that the bass switch is on the lowest notch. The sound didn't sound too dark for me, but the bass was quite heavy and sort of bled into the mids. For the price it was asking for it was alright. The SE846 didn't sound too impressive.



It's an interesting tuning IMO that they can get the bass that weighty and still keep the mids reasonably in line. If you felt the bass was quite heavy then I suspect the port was open a bit (they ship to customers with it on notch 2/4, ie one notch past closed). If anyone else goes, that would be a good question to ask.

Mind if I quote your quick impressions into the ASG-2 Review thread?



Sure thing! But mind that it was actually a few minutes of the ASG-2 with the Sony A844 which is known to boost the highs and mids. The bass was actually punch and deep, but it was a shame it bled into mids. The mids and highs stood out alone, and were quite clear, but you can feel the bass seeping into the mids. 
 
Aug 12, 2013 at 3:35 AM Post #2,622 of 7,021
Eke, here's a short set of impressions for your front page linkage from another thread, full context.


I tried the demo pair at the show and didn't find the bass bleed into the mids with port closed.
 
Aug 12, 2013 at 5:55 AM Post #2,623 of 7,021
I actually ordered my Ortofon tips here, because the seller will send you whatever sizes you want. So I got one small and two medium, as I knew I never use large tips anyway. 
 
Aug 12, 2013 at 7:11 AM Post #2,624 of 7,021
Aug 12, 2013 at 8:19 AM Post #2,625 of 7,021
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Eke, here's a short set of impressions for your front page linkage from another thread, full context.

 

 
Oh, thanks man.
 
But
 
I'd prefer for the impressions to be in more controlled, extended listening environments. Also, the impressions now have to measure up to the standards you set.
 
(kidding)
 

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