[KMann]

So that also counts for other models? I have an LCD-3f I bought almost 2 years ago new, and own more recent models of EL-8 open, Sine, and iSine 10 and 20.

Yes true for all the models you listed. That is quite a collection, thanks for supporting us.

 

[CANiSLAYu]

We are open to working with A&K .

Any update to potentially making some preset EQ for A&K players now that they support the ability to save and export EQ settings? Thanks!

 

[KMann]

Any update to potentially making some preset EQ for A&K players now that they support the ability to save and export EQ settings? Thanks!

We are busy with few other projects but we will reach out to them at some point. You could help us too by contacting AK to see if they will work with us. Request from customers will encourage them.

 

[CANiSLAYu]

We are busy with few other projects but we will reach out to them at some point. You could help us too by contacting AK to see if they will work with us. Request from customers will encourage them.

I don't think it's anything that needs interaction on their part because it's all user generated. The players just have the ability to load someone else's EQ curves. So if you (or me even, except I have no idea what I'm doing, haha) developed an EQ curve for LCD-4z on an A&K player, that file can be exported and shared. No input/interaction from A&K needed. It's just a function of their OS now.

 

[KMann]

I don't think it's anything that needs interaction on their part because it's all user generated. The players just have the ability to load someone else's EQ curves. So if you (or me even, except I have no idea what I'm doing, haha) developed an EQ curve for LCD-4z on an A&K player, that file can be exported and shared. No input/interaction from A&K needed. It's just a function of their OS now.

Ha good to know. What are the models that support this feature?

 

[CANiSLAYu]

Ha good to know. What are the models that support this feature?

Well, I only care about KANN CUBE and SR15 because that's what I have, so start there. JK Looking at firmware notes, appear the following players support shareable EQ:

• SR15
• SE100
• KANN CUBE
• SP1000
• SP1000M

SP2000 might have it by default since it's just coming out and this feature was enabled starting in June. @JasonNYC can you confirm? Also, say someone was to create one EQ for a particular headphone, would that setting be good for all players? Or there are enough differences that a setting for each player is warranted? Thanks to you both.

 

[JasonNYC]

Well, I only care about KANN CUBE and SR15 because that's what I have, so start there. JK Looking at firmware notes, appear the following players support shareable EQ:

• SR15
• SE100
• KANN CUBE
• SP1000
• SP1000M

SP2000 might have it by default since it's just coming out and this feature was enabled starting in June. @JasonNYC can you confirm? Also, say someone was to create one EQ for a particular headphone, would that setting be good for all players? Or there are enough differences that a setting for each player is warranted? Thanks to you both.

Confirmed the SP2000 has the EQ share feature.

 

[KMann]

Well, I only care about KANN CUBE and SR15 because that's what I have, so start there. JK Looking at firmware notes, appear the following players support shareable EQ:

• SR15
• SE100
• KANN CUBE
• SP1000
• SP1000M

SP2000 might have it by default since it's just coming out and this feature was enabled starting in June. @JasonNYC can you confirm? Also, say someone was to create one EQ for a particular headphone, would that setting be good for all players? Or there are enough differences that a setting for each player is warranted? Thanks to you both.

Thanks for looping Jason. I have reached out and we will be working with A&K to provide presets.

 

[AlwaysForward]

I don't think it's anything that needs interaction on their part because it's all user generated. The players just have the ability to load someone else's EQ curves. So if you (or me even, except I have no idea what I'm doing, haha) developed an EQ curve for LCD-4z on an A&K player, that file can be exported and shared. No input/interaction from A&K needed. It's just a function of their OS now.

wait does this work with stuff like the Orratory curves?

 

[CANiSLAYu]

Thanks for looping Jason. I have reached out and we will be working with A&K to provide presets.

Here’s an example of JH Audio providing EQ setting for their Layla lineup.

 

[Rattle]

Recently installed Reveal using JRiver only way I could get it to work was putting the plugin directly into JRivers plugin folder myself. Installing the reveal program doesn't really do anything ?

Anyway I normally hate EQ'ing but reveal is an awesome alternative. I like the way these new LCD2F sound with it A LOT !

Please keep updating so things stay current.

 

[Ken G]

Hi @KMann , wanted to bring an issue with the Reveal plugin to your attention. I'm using the plugin & an Audeze LCDi4 on an iMAC playing Qobuz through Audirvana.

On certain songs I can clearly hear distortion that seems to be caused by the Reveal. I'll post the songs below for you to research but once I noticed it I tried the same songs with other headphones (HD800, LCD3, Focal Utopia) and didn't notice the same background distortion. Once I turned off the Reveal, the distortion was gone on the LCDi4.

To make sure it wasn't just the Audirvana software, I tried the same test with the same songs through the Qobuz desktop app but putting the sound through Reveal in MenuBUS. I experienced the same distortion. Turning the mix to 50% wet tamed down the distortion a tiny bit but it was still audible. I also streamed (through Audirvana) the same songs to a upnp renderer with a different dac/amp combo just to make sure it wasn't my desktop setup and I go the same distortion when the Reveal software was enabled.

I also tried the same songs with the Cipher cable using Qobuz on my iPhone and there was no audible distortion.

The songs that I noticed it on are:

Blood by Allison Moorer - about 2 minutes into the song
Can't Stand it by Wilco - about a minute and 10 seconds into the song

Please let me know if you need any additional information.

 

[KMann]

Hi @KMann , wanted to bring an issue with the Reveal plugin to your attention. I'm using the plugin & an Audeze LCDi4 on an iMAC playing Qobuz through Audirvana.

On certain songs I can clearly hear distortion that seems to be caused by the Reveal. I'll post the songs below for you to research but once I noticed it I tried the same songs with other headphones (HD800, LCD3, Focal Utopia) and didn't notice the same background distortion. Once I turned off the Reveal, the distortion was gone on the LCDi4.

To make sure it wasn't just the Audirvana software, I tried the same test with the same songs through the Qobuz desktop app but putting the sound through Reveal in MenuBUS. I experienced the same distortion. Turning the mix to 50% wet tamed down the distortion a tiny bit but it was still audible. I also streamed (through Audirvana) the same songs to a upnp renderer with a different dac/amp combo just to make sure it wasn't my desktop setup and I go the same distortion when the Reveal software was enabled.

I also tried the same songs with the Cipher cable using Qobuz on my iPhone and there was no audible distortion.

The songs that I noticed it on are:

Blood by Allison Moorer - about 2 minutes into the song
Can't Stand it by Wilco - about a minute and 10 seconds into the song

Please let me know if you need any additional information.

The presets within Reveal do not inherently cause distortion but can cause digital clipping on some louder passages, this is true to most DSP effects. The best way to mitigate it is to use the gain knob we provided for Reveal plugin and bring it down by 3dB - 6dB (i.e set it to -3dB to -6dB) till you do not hear the distortion . The gain knob is provided for this exact scenario. You can increase the volume on your DAC/Amp to compensate for the slight loss of volume.

 

[Ken G]

The presets within Reveal do not inherently cause distortion but can cause digital clipping on some louder passages, this is true to most DSP effects. The best way to mitigate it is to use the gain knob we provided for Reveal plugin and bring it down by 3dB - 6dB (i.e set it to -3dB to -6dB) till you do not hear the distortion . The gain knob is provided for this exact scenario. You can increase the volume on your DAC/Amp to compensate for the slight loss of volume.

That seems to help. Thanks.

With the newest version, is there a way to save the presets for each Audeze headphone. It appears that isn't working on the version (11.2) I'm using.

 

[Lisp]

Please refer my post (#2500) here for PEQ settings, use EQ V2 for iSine 20. Filters 1 and 10 are high shelf. You may have to play with the slope of filters 1 and 10 to better match the graphs depending on the app. You can increase the slope of filter 1 up to 1 if you want the bass to be tighter. You can drop filters 3, 7 and 10 if you are limited to 6 band.

This 6-band setting from V2 sounds much better than V1. Is V1 actually more suitable for other earphones rather than isine20? Also one thing I do not understand is that why is dropping filter 10 instead of filter 6 a better choice? It seems that filter 10 is more important because it has a larger value of gain (5.39 db), but using filter 6 (1.5 db gain) instead of filter 10 does sound better.