Redwine iMod vs Amp question

[Skylab]

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Originally Posted by Pete7 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Isn't the Ipod model he wants to get Imodded a 3rd generation Ipod? It states on the Redwine Audio site only 4th generation models can be used for the Imod. http://www.redwineaudio.com/iMod.html EDIT:Wait a second,that is a 4th gen,isn't it? Sorry...

Both "Color" and "Photo" were 4th gen iPods. So yes, he can get it modded.

 

[rodeodude]

This is kind of a random question, but how does the Imod compare to the sound from a Rio Karma?

 

[debrey]

It is worth mentioning, as a small negative thing, that 5th Generation iPods now have gapless playback (as of the recent upgrade), but the 4th Gen's don't.

 

[EFN]

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Originally Posted by debrey /img/forum/go_quote.gif It is worth mentioning, as a small negative thing, that 5th Generation iPods now have gapless playback (as of the recent upgrade), but the 4th Gen's don't.

Rockbox on 4th GEN fixed that

 

[Snacks]

When I first saw what the Red Wine mod did, I immediately wanted to have it done to my iPod, but after reading this:

NOTES: The Red Wine Audio iMod converts the 1/8" headphone jack to a dedicated line-out jack, so the headphone output is disabled. It is intended to be connected to either a high quality headphone amp w/ volume control or home stereo system, NOT directly to headphones. The stock line-out from the dock connector is also disabled.

Source: http://www.redwineaudio.com/iMod.html

I no longer want to have it done, as I sometimes connect my iPod into the AUX input of my vehicle and besides that, with the dock connector also disabled how are you supposed to sync/charge the darned thing?

One more thing, I recently purchased a portable boombox and ALO Silver V2, will these have to be traded/sold because of an iWine mod?

 

[agile_one]

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Originally Posted by Snacks /img/forum/go_quote.gif I no longer want to have it done, as I sometimes connect my iPod into the AUX input of my vehicle

No problem ... most AUX ins expect a line level input, unless your car system is different.

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Originally Posted by Snacks /img/forum/go_quote.gif ... and besides that, with the dock connector also disabled how are you supposed to sync/charge the darned thing?

iMod only disables the line out of the dock connector - the charging and synching still work just fine.

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Originally Posted by Snacks /img/forum/go_quote.gif One more thing, I recently purchased a portable boombox and ALO Silver V2, will these have to be traded/sold because of an iWine mod?

The ALO Silver will be of no use with an iModded player, but don't know why a boombox wouldn't accept the line out signal, unless it's one of those that have an iPod dock for input with no other line in port available.

 

[ghiberti]

I no longer want to have it done, as I sometimes connect my iPod into the AUX input of my vehicle and besides that, with the dock connector also disabled how are you supposed to sync/charge the darned thing? QUOTE]

uhhh... after imod, if we really cannot update/charge ipod through dock connector,
nobody would want this mod

only the audio line-out is disabled from the dock connector. all
other functionality remains untouched.


Edit: bah... agile_one, you're a little faster than me

 

[Snacks]

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Originally Posted by agile_one /img/forum/go_quote.gif No problem ... most AUX ins expect a line level input, unless your car system is different. iMod only disables the line out of the dock connector - the charging and synching still work just fine. The ALO Silver will be of no use with an iModded player, but don't know why a boombox wouldn't accept the line out signal, unless it's one of those that have an iPod dock for input with no other line in port available.

Thanks agile_one, I know some of the questions seemed sort of self explanitory; however, one never knows until one asks, right?

Now everything makes perfect sense, i.e., AUX, sync, etc. With my vehicle, I use the Sik Din dock connector; easy fix there, as I would just change to a line-in...

And, as I recall, I believe my boombox has a AUX line-in, so same thing here as well.

Now only problem I have is with the ALO Silver V2.

Does the iMod only sound significantly better if you use Apple's lossless? As I only have the 20GB iPod, which is nearly filled with mostly 256 and up AAC.

Again thanks; look forward to your next reply.

 

[warrior05]

as with any upgrade in component the imod can reveal flaws in your source but it also depends on your set-up. what i mean by this is if you connect your iMod'd iPod to a discerning amp and listen through revealing cans then you are going to hear the lack of quality in music ripped at medium to low bitrates. if you have a very discerning ear, even high bitrates will be "unlistenable".

so you need to evaluate how you would use your iMod'd iPod. if it isn't through very good equipment i would question why even have it done. but if you are going for a more mid-fi set-up, staying with your ripped music will probably be fine. the only way to know is to compare your ripped stuff to the original CD. if you don't hear a difference then you know your answer.

 

[Snacks]

More than likely, I will be using my iPod same way as I use it now, mainly for short commutes here and there...on second thought, I probably could do without this mod. My lifestlye is way to complicated and the iMod would make it even more complicated.

Meaning: In my case I might be better served going on my set-up (noted below), as it allows me to undo anything that needs undone, depending on my need(s).

20GB iPod -> Xin SMIIIV6/Hornet "M" -> ALO V2 -> PX100/Darth/HD 650

***I seek best sound at the expense of max portability***

Thanks for the help guys/gals; maybe I will re-visit this idea in the near future, we shall see.

 

[Pete7]

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Originally Posted by Snacks /img/forum/go_quote.gif More than likely, I will be using my iPod same way as I use it now, mainly for short commutes here and there...on second thought, I probably could do without this mod. My lifestlye is way to complicated and the iMod would make it even more complicated. Meaning: In my case I might be better served going on my set-up (noted below), as it allows me to undo anything that needs undone, depending on my need(s). 20GB iPod -> Xin SMIIIV6/Hornet "M" -> ALO V2 -> PX100/Darth/HD 650 ***I seek best sound at the expense of max portability*** Thanks for the help guys/gals; maybe I will re-visit this idea in the near future, we shall see.

How exactly does it make it complicated? The only 2 things being substituted in your portable rig would be the imodded Ipod and a decent mini-to-mini interconnect. And since you are stressing that maximum portability is of primary importance, an imodded Ipod is more portable than a regular Ipod utilizing a Line Out Dock. An Ipod with a LOD is bulkier than an imodded Ipod, which'll connect to your amp with a mini-to-mini via the headphone jack. The imodded Ipod being more portable with an amp than a standard Ipod was a big reason for me to get it, in addition to the SQ.

 

[Snacks]

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Originally Posted by Pete7 /img/forum/go_quote.gif How exactly does it make it complicated? The only 2 things being substituted in your portable rig would be the imodded Ipod and a decent mini-to-mini interconnect. And since you are stressing that maximum portability is of primary importance, an imodded Ipod is more portable than a regular Ipod utilizing a Line Out Dock. An Ipod with a LOD is bulkier than an imodded Ipod, which'll connect to your amp with a mini-to-mini via the headphone jack. The imodded Ipod being more portable with an amp than a standard Ipod was a big reason for me to get it, in addition to the SQ.

In order for me to have maximum portability, specifically, running/jogging, I will need the headphone out. From what I read, in order to achieve an iMod, I have to give that feature up. That is why I stressed portability,then best sound quality and the ability to sometimes change things up.

The aforementioned, in my mind, is the best way to achieve the best balance w/o having to buy a secondary player specifically for running/walking; that is unless anyone else has a better idea?

And furthermore if I have this straight the scenario that is mentioned above would go as follows: iMod->Amp->mini-to-mini->headphone.

Max portability especially while running: iPod->headphone. That is of course given one scenario out of many, but a very critical one for me at this time, as I tend to run at least 20 miles per week, not to include Grinder PT (Physical Training) 30-45 minutes Monday thru Friday and oftentimes Saturday and/or Sunday.

Yes we PT a lot, and I travel quite a bit, depending on mission at hand...rant over...I do not need this mod at this time, thanks for the help.

 

[daggerlee]

just a comment, but the 4G ipod is not the ideal running DAP - it's hard drive based, so will be subject to the shocks of running, plus it's heavy. if you expand your budget by $70 or so you can get the new ipod shuffle for running in addition to the iMod, and have the best of both worlds.

 

[Skylab]

Yeah, I use a Nano for running, but the iMod for serious listening.

 

[Tbeze]

RWA ipod > New 5.5 gen ipod

so will my 4th gen's price increase on head-fi??

also RWA + 256kbps+ audio is that better then stock with ALAC??