[Cloudtastrophe]

does anyone know if the glass on the player is gorilla glass or not? worried about removing the screen protector

 

[Brava210]

Just for info, if you download USB player pro from Google Play, you can plug any external DAC in with no trouble. It also includes streaming built in for Tidal and Qobuz and displays bitrates. It really is worth a go

 

[Beau Cauchemar]

Another person here requesting any info regarding 3rd party player apps and whether they utilize the ESS 9018 DAC. Mostly curious due to my desire to use the Tidal player, but still haven't found firm verification that it actually uses the Sabre. Especially important when they eventually update for MQA streaming. If not, is there a way to get it to be utilized via rooting or otherwise?

Btw anyone successfully load the stock Onkyo player onto this Pioneer unit? I know they're basically the same but I kinda like the funky circle skin on the Onkyo and am curious if I can port it over somehow (rooting, firmware, etc.)

 

[3dit0r]

Another person here requesting any info regarding 3rd party player apps and whether they utilize the ESS 9018 DAC. Mostly curious due to my desire to use the Tidal player, but still haven't found firm verification that it actually uses the Sabre. Especially important when they eventually update for MQA streaming. If not, is there a way to get it to be utilized via rooting or otherwise?

Btw anyone successfully load the stock Onkyo player onto this Pioneer unit? I know they're basically the same but I kinda like the funky circle skin on the Onkyo and am curious if I can port it over somehow (rooting, firmware, etc.)

Why wouldn't it use the Sabre, isn't that the only DAC in the Pioneer?

Surely this is already rendering MQA streamed via Tidal - every other MQA compatible piece of kit I own renders Tidal MQA?

 

[Beau Cauchemar]

Apparently, due to it being on an Android platform, the DAC duties can be carried out on the processor(?) when the app doesn't specify a passthrough/Sabre. Maybe someone will chime in with the technical details, but I know it's been explained earlier in this thread.

And yes, the desktop version of Tidal currently streams MQA (when showing Master as the stream quality), but the mobile versions currently do not (max is Hifi or 320.)

 

[3dit0r]

Apparently, due to it being on an Android platform, the DAC duties can be carried out on the processor(?) when the app doesn't specify a passthrough/Sabre. Maybe someone will chime in with the technical details, but I know it's been explained earlier in this thread.

And yes, the desktop version of Tidal currently streams MQA (when showing Master as the stream quality), but the mobile versions currently do not (max is Hifi or 320.)

Thanks, that's important to know. Given that the main source of MQA by far is now Tidal (especially given the huge amount of releases in the last couple of weeks), this dap is not so useful to me if it can't play full MQA from Tidal (which is one of its main selling points.

 

[csimon]

Why wouldn't it use the Sabre, isn't that the only DAC in the Pioneer?

Not sure if there has ever been any official communication from Pioneer/Onkyo on this, but take a look at this post in the Onkyo thread which suggests that all software goes through the onboard DAC, built-in to the device's main Snapdragon processor, using standard systems calls...unless it's been programmed specifically to use a secondary DAC.

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/onk...d-256-android-5.780642/page-970#post-13543947

 

[Beau Cauchemar]

Thanks for taking the time to direct us to more concrete info.

It sounds like Pioneer/Onkyo might be afraid to admit then that what we discovered is indeed true, and that the Sabre DAC is limited to their branded players only (despite their 3rd party app support mentions.) Granted I'm an iPhone user, so rooting devices is a new concept for me having not previously owned another Android device, but even that sounds like it only gives hardware DAC access to a particular version of PowerAmp.

Since the only feature I'm looking to utilize that the stock player doesn't do is stream MQA on Tidal when they release that feature (and one of the main selling points for me to get this DAP), it looks like rooting isn't going to be much of a solution for me. Perhaps the Tidal app will be written to include optimizations for the Pioneer/Onkyo DACs since they're some of the only MQA mobile devices available, but that could be a pipe dream and I might just have to download my MQA after all... :/

 

[tiddlywinks]

Update available in the store for the Music App, - What's New? - Supports Onkyo music downloader and Minor Bug fixes

 

[hackstu]

Currently using a 1 amp apple charger, would a 2 amp or higher charger be okay with the xdp 100 r.

 

[Brava210]

Currently using a 1 amp apple charger, would a 2 amp or higher charger be okay with the xdp 100 r.

Yes it's fine.

 

[Kamto]

A new owner of the 100R here. I have a question.

Has anyone any experience with Meridian Explorer 1/2 as external DAC? When I connect with a OTG cable to the 100R, the lights on the Meridian don't turn on and the Output Audio Route in settings show Tablet as the external device.

Not that I have any problem with the sound out of the 100R. But I'm keen to try other music apps other then the stock one.

 

[Kamto]

A new owner of the 100R here. I have a question.

Has anyone any experience with Meridian Explorer 1/2 as external DAC? When I connect with a OTG cable to the 100R, the lights on the Meridian don't turn on and the Output Audio Route in settings show Tablet as the external device.

Not that I have any problem with the sound out of the 100R. But I'm keen to try other music apps other then the stock one.

To answer my own question. The Explorer needs external power. It works when connected to a powered hub. Annoyingly the Neutron app evaluation period just expired in

 

[dreambass]

To answer my own question. The Explorer needs external power. It works when connected to a powered hub. Annoyingly the Neutron app evaluation period just expired in

It's odd I have tried to use explorer 2 with pioneer, as you say it does not power up. Works flawlessly though my phone though.

 

[Kamto]

It's odd I have tried to use explorer 2 with pioneer, as you say it does not power up. Works flawlessly though my phone though.

Yeah. I'm a bit surprised the 100R doesn't provide enough power, it seems.