[Griffinhart]

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Yes. ROG laptops  are bassed of Stealth bombers

/headdesk
/sigh
 
ROG laptops look nothing like a B-2 Spirit. Not flat or rounded enough. They also don't look like F-117 Nighthawks, because they're not all angles and ugly as sin...
 
-- Griffinhart

 

[jinny]

I've been following this thread for quite some time and some of your have very beautiful setups!!
I don't know if here's the right place, but thought i'd share. here's my current setup.
 

 
 
 
J

 

[SniperCzar]

In my experience, low end Dells and any Acer laptops last an average of 2-3 years, sometimes less. One particularly good example is a low end Dell brought to me recently that literally melted its own solder joins apart because of overheating. Essentially it was the exact same thing that happened to early Xbox 360s that caused them all to RRoD. This was particularly impressive considering the processor had so much thermal paste globbed on it that it functioned as an insulator and should have caused a thermal shutdown within five minutes of heavy use.
 
I rarely if ever see any Asus or Alienware laptops in my repair shop, and it's not just the lower market share. And the thicker Lenovos? Those things are built like absolute tanks. Between my brother's Lenovo and my Beyers, I could tear down a wall through brute smashing and they'd both still be functional. Toshibas and high-end Dells are very hit or miss. As for Fujitsus they're pretty much nonexistent anymore outside of one or two models at Wal-Mart.

 

[bowei006]

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/headdesk
/sigh
 
ROG laptops look nothing like a B-2 Spirit. Not flat or rounded enough. They also don't look like F-117 Nighthawks, because they're not all angles and ugly as sin...
 
-- Griffinhart

well. you get what they are trying to do. that's the important thing. and well. not stealth bombers exactly. but stealthy look...that's..kinda bsed off a stealth bomber....it's an Asian cool looking thing :/
 


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I've been following this thread for quite some time and some of your have very beautiful setups!!
I don't know if here's the right place, but thought i'd share. here's my current setup.
 
 
 
J

this thread is supposed to be computer rig.. but since its on head fi. it's more or less a post your audiophile desktop setup..that usually includes a comptuer.. wow. great bookshelfs. what are they? im a headphone guy...don't know much about bookshelfs at all >_<
 
 
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Originally Posted by SniperCzar /img/forum/go_quote.gif

In my experience, low end Dells and any Acer laptops last an average of 2-3 years, sometimes less. One particularly good example is a low end Dell brought to me recently that literally melted its own solder joins apart because of overheating. Essentially it was the exact same thing that happened to early Xbox 360s that caused them all to RRoD. This was particularly impressive considering the processor had so much thermal paste globbed on it that it functioned as an insulator and should have caused a thermal shutdown within five minutes of heavy use.
 
I rarely if ever see any Asus or Alienware laptops in my repair shop, and it's not just the lower market share. And the thicker Lenovos? Those things are built like absolute tanks. Between my brother's Lenovo and my Beyers, I could tear down a wall through brute smashing and they'd both still be functional. Toshibas and high-end Dells are very hit or miss. As for Fujitsus they're pretty much nonexistent anymore outside of one or two models at Wal-Mart.

 

 
exactly. laptops and OEM computers are largely hit and miss really. those ratings i said above were generally.
current overal PC ranking goes like this:
1:Apple
2:Samsung
3:ASUS
4:Toshiba
 
don't mind number 1 if you don't wnat to and just move the numbers below Apple up one rank ASus used to hold supremem windows pc spot..until samsung started going hard.

 

[Softdrink 117]

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Softdrink 117, I can tell that you go to a UC.  That desk and bedframe are the same ones I had in UCSD.

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sniped! gott'em

Yep. UCLA, Mechanical Engineering major. Triple room > . <
 
I'm the only person I knew from high school who went to UCLA-- everyone else is at UCSD.
 
With regard to the whole "ASUS as a company" thing:
I personally have had nothing but great experiences with ASUS products. My sound card is one (and although I no longer use it for amping the DSP effects are very impressive), and my best friend owns one of the 'stealth bomber' uber-laptops. His laptop has suffered a couple serious failures involving the power supply chain and hard drive, but even after modifying it outside of warranty he received excellent service from their representatives. Plus, I really respect their general commitment to providing well-executed products, especially with their motherboards. True, some of their applications are probably bs (and frankly, what prebuilt system DOESN'T come with a ton of bloatware these days?), but on the whole they seem like a company that actively tries to deliver what their market wants.
 
As an example, their new DAC/amp looks like it will have some VERY promising features and top-notch build quality. And it exists purely because of the popularity of their 'audiophile' product-- the Essence STX-- and the demand for a higher-tier solution. Whether it will actually deliver higher performance remains to be seen, though.
 
BTW, I'm a former Dell user. Never again. Currently I use an Acer netbook from several years back when I'm on the go.
 
 

 

[Softdrink 117]

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/headdesk
/sigh
 
ROG laptops look nothing like a B-2 Spirit. Not flat or rounded enough. They also don't look like F-117 Nighthawks, because they're not all angles and ugly as sin...
 
-- Griffinhart

Lol, my sentiments exactly. I think it's just some kind of justification for the absurdly oversized cooling intakes. From a marketing standpoint it makes sense... sort of...
 
And I personally prefer the F-117 aesthetic to that of the B-2. It's ugly to the point of being beautiful, methinks.
 

 

[bowei006]

 


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Yep. UCLA, Mechanical Engineering major. Triple room > . <
 
I'm the only person I knew from high school who went to UCLA-- everyone else is at UCSD.
 
With regard to the whole "ASUS as a company" thing:
I personally have had nothing but great experiences with ASUS products. My sound card is one (and although I no longer use it for amping the DSP effects are very impressive), and my best friend owns one of the 'stealth bomber' uber-laptops. His laptop has suffered a couple serious failures involving the power supply chain and hard drive, but even after modifying it outside of warranty he received excellent service from their representatives. Plus, I really respect their general commitment to providing well-executed products, especially with their motherboards. True, some of their applications are probably bs (and frankly, what prebuilt system DOESN'T come with a ton of bloatware these days?), but on the whole they seem like a company that actively tries to deliver what their market wants.
 
As an example, their new DAC/amp looks like it will have some VERY promising features and top-notch build quality. And it exists purely because of the popularity of their 'audiophile' product-- the Essence STX-- and the demand for a higher-tier solution. Whether it will actually deliver higher performance remains to be seen, though.
 
BTW, I'm a former Dell user. Never again. Currently I use an Acer netbook from several years back when I'm on the go.
 
 

see this is what i mean all the stuff you noted was exactly what i mean. and yeah ASUS bloatware. they give you a free full windows restore CD...their bloatware...meh. like i said. so many programs do the same thing..can't stop me from loving them though. you just need to use the right ones
 

 
Acer is on the rise. they are the main company behind emachines and gateway. emachines is pure crap. gateway offers one of the best price to performance ratios of mass marketed laptops i have ever seen. sadly. they are also very problem laden due to lack of good quality parts. Acer themselves however is on the rise
 
ASrock is as well. it's kinda funny. ASrock was made by Asus (Asustek's rarely used tagline:Asus, heart warming, rock solid) to be a lower quality(still many times higher than foxconn) motherboard company for new builders that don't have much money....Asrock department is now in full competition with Asus. you odn't know how many people don't know asrock is by asus and go into argumetns about price to performance. yeah. asrock is hitting all classes now from enthusiast clas to gaming class. they are doing ok right now in enthusiast class. but are rocking all the lower classes. not rocking rocking. but doing pretty good. a creation escaping it's creator hah
 
Dell...eww
 
 

 

[Griffinhart]

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well. you get what they are trying to do. that's the important thing. and well. not stealth bombers exactly. but stealthy look...that's..kinda bsed off a stealth bomber....it's an Asian cool looking thing :/
 
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1:Apple 2:Samsung
3:ASUS
4:Toshiba
 
don't mind number 1 if you don't wnat to and just move the numbers below Apple up one rank ASus used to hold supremem windows pc spot..until samsung started going hard.

ASIAN PEOPLE. /fistshake
(Don't worry, guys. It's cool, I'm Vietnamese. I can be casually, sarcastically racist towards Asians! :v )

Say what you will about Apple and its fans, but their hardware, for all its overpricedness, is seriously top-notch. They're one of few laptop manus that do proper cooling without needing to jam a huge freakin' fan inside (and still have the machine be hot).

(Not that I'd ever own an iProduct - haven't had an iAnything for the past couple of years, and I'm more than fine with this.)
 
-- Griffinhart
 

 

[Softdrink 117]

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-stuff-
 

I spy some Deus Ex in there. Great game, really blew me away. Phenomenal interior designs to boot.
 
I inherited the Acer netbook, but I agree it was a great price/performance value even when it was new. Lenovo also seems to be doing quite well in that department. There's actually a very sizeable discount on their Thinkpad series here, which makes it even more absurd.
 
I was a bit curious about ASrock when planning and building this rig. I was not familiar with them, and their products seemed to fall somewhere between the 'low end' manufacturers and brands like ASUS and MSI. That's some interesting information.
 
By the way, do any of you guys use SSDs in your builds? The prices are heading down fast, and given the HDD market crash they're looking much more attractive.
 

 

[Totally Dubbed]

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it's getting boring for the night so why not:
Who can guess what ASUS Graphics card this is?..just a fun thing
 

Would you want me to show u emails I had with ASUS?
 
Or should I just tell you how bad they are?
I absolutely hate ASUS, they are ABSOLUTELY useless, and have no idea what they are doing. Honestly.
I used to love ASUS, until i had problems with my motherboard.
 
I thought an ASUS "support/tech specialist" would know what RAM was, and what "out-date bios, that doesn't run on a newer CPU" was
 
Here you go son:

 
 

 

[Totally Dubbed]

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I've been following this thread for quite some time and some of your have very beautiful setups!!
I don't know if here's the right place, but thought i'd share. here's my current setup.
 
 
 
 
 
J

 
This is such a beautiful picture!!
 
 
 

 

[Tilpo]

Would you want me to show u emails I had with ASUS?
 
Or should I just tell you how bad they are?
I absolutely hate ASUS, they are ABSOLUTELY useless, and have no idea what they are doing. Honestly.
I used to love ASUS, until i had problems with my motherboard.
 
I thought an ASUS "support/tech specialist" would know what RAM was, and what "out-date bios, that doesn't run on a newer CPU" was
 
Here you go son:

Never expect anything out of customer support. It seems to happen very rarely that they DO know what they are talking about.

I once had to deal with customer support of some fairly large hardware webshop. They didn't even know how to open a .zip file, on WINDOWS where it should have built-in support from XP onwards. Never underestimate the stupidity of customer support.

 

[Totally Dubbed]

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Never expect anything out of customer support. It seems to happen very rarely that they DO know what they are talking about.
I once had to deal with customer support of some fairly large hardware webshop. They didn't even know how to open a .zip file, on WINDOWS where it should have built-in support from XP onwards. Never underestimate the stupidity of customer support.

not only customer support mate...
Sent it to some technicians 3x, yes THREE TIMES.
Each time they came back with - it runs fine on XP with 4GB ram.
 
OF COURSE IT DOES YOU GENIUSES, but not with my E6500 - the bios is god damn outdated, and I can't updated it.
I only found this out from my friend after, as he said:
"look chris, i suspect, that its the bios, you won't be able to run 4gb ram on that mbo, with no matter what ram you try. They should have known better, and told you from the start, that the bios is not as up-to-date as your newer CPU is. Even though its on the compatibility list"
 
I want to avoid ASUS as much as possible.
Even my monitor, started having blue line problems:
 

 

[bowei006]

GrifFinhart u read me wrong. Im a pc and linux enthusiast. But im an Apple fan boy. A very big one. Hey guys what other mass market  computer comes standard on all lines with a Cirrus Logic Dac and pretty good amp with optical out? Standard that is.
 
My customer support with Asus also only gets an average score. Ive also called them multiple times but i dont hold it against them. Im calling Asus USA ... Not Asustek corp.

 

[J.Pocalypse]

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ASUS laptops are terrible. Nearly half of everyone I know at school has one (I'm not even kidding), and every single one of them has had some kind of issue with their laptop.
 
I'm not particularly satisfied with my ASUS mobo either, although it's not due to failure - it's just as large and accommodating as I'd thought it would be.
 
-- Griffinhart

I've had my Asus Eee PC 1201N since the week they were available in the US. 0 problems. I upgraded the HDD to a 500GB Seagate Momentus XT and added 4GB of 800 MHz G.Skill RAM. This thing runns like a champ.