Personal BEST DAC-AMP & DONGLES discoveries thread (Best finds Reference List)
Apr 17, 2020 at 9:36 AM Post #211 of 328
so, i'm back into ultra portable DAC-AMP obsession.

Just one word right now, the real deal is: TEMPOTEC SONATA HD PRO

Its 40$. Ultra small. Just have volume control. But the sound is smooth, wide, ultra transparent and clean...so refined for such low price. It use the excellent cirrus CS43131 dac...i prefer the sound of HD PRO over IKKO Zerda (100$).

Make one month I use it everyday...and share my enthusiasm on NBBA....and indeed, all people that get it praise it.

FIIO BTR5 is excellent too, but thats a Bluetooth dac-amp at 3 times the price.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000328408705.html

Cool. Have you tried any of the dragonfly's or the centrance dacport HD and how do they compare?

Have you tried it with a higher impedance headphones? Got the 650's and kinda want a chifi dac that works with that, but people say 2v's doesn't cut it. I've got an Xduoo XD-05 which I quite like but loses connection with laptop really quickly =/
 
Apr 27, 2020 at 4:40 PM Post #214 of 328
I was wondering if anyone who has tested some of these DACs can help me choose one . My budget is £35 unfortunately.

1. Lusya SA9023A + ES9018K2M USB portable DAC ( https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32932392383.html )

I've read good things about this and its apparently a rebrand of a differend DAC/AMP. Would it get hot if I keep it in use for 10 hours ?

2. Creative Sound Blaster Play!3 ( shorturl.at/euw05 )

Mixed reviews , apparently it sounds noisy

3. TempoTec SONATA HD PRO ( https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000328408705.html )

Good reviews and its my no1 candidate so far

4. Lusya HIFI TDA1543*4 ( https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32880513465.html )

This is the most intriguing one . From what I've read it does wonders to the sound and it due to some old but really nice Philips chipsets. Is it plug and play ? Would I need to buy a case for it ?

5. XtremPro X1 ( https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01FQHBDI4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3O321HKJX56NP&psc=1 )

Again very good reviews and its supposed to be a rebrand of a different DAC.

6. The out of budget IBASSO DC01 ( https://www.amazon.co.uk/iBasso-USB-C-Adapter-2-5mm-Output/dp/B07RTRB5MR )

Is there a cheaper alternative to this one anywhere that is worth buying ? From what I understand I could actually use my balanced cable that campe with the headphones and get the best of both worlds, a better dac plus the balanced connection
 
Apr 28, 2020 at 11:19 AM Post #216 of 328
I was wondering if anyone who has tested some of these DACs can help me choose one . My budget is £35 unfortunately.

1. Lusya SA9023A + ES9018K2M USB portable DAC ( https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32932392383.html )

I've read good things about this and its apparently a rebrand of a differend DAC/AMP. Would it get hot if I keep it in use for 10 hours ?

2. Creative Sound Blaster Play!3 ( shorturl.at/euw05 )

Mixed reviews , apparently it sounds noisy

3. TempoTec SONATA HD PRO ( https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000328408705.html )

Good reviews and its my no1 candidate so far

4. Lusya HIFI TDA1543*4 ( https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32880513465.html )

This is the most intriguing one . From what I've read it does wonders to the sound and it due to some old but really nice Philips chipsets. Is it plug and play ? Would I need to buy a case for it ?

5. XtremPro X1 ( https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01FQHBDI4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3O321HKJX56NP&psc=1 )

Again very good reviews and its supposed to be a rebrand of a different DAC.

6. The out of budget IBASSO DC01 ( https://www.amazon.co.uk/iBasso-USB-C-Adapter-2-5mm-Output/dp/B07RTRB5MR )

Is there a cheaper alternative to this one anywhere that is worth buying ? From what I understand I could actually use my balanced cable that campe with the headphones and get the best of both worlds, a better dac plus the balanced connection

I can't sing enough praises for the Tempotec Sonata HD Pro. It's an absolute steal at 40 dollars. The Hidizs S8 is the same thing with one extra cable for 80 or 90 and it'd be worth that. Both subjectively, and objectively, this thing punches WAY above its weight. Very clean and detailed, totally neutral, and the numbers on it are great. Seriously, don't even think about the other ones. Just get it.
 
Apr 28, 2020 at 6:14 PM Post #217 of 328
4. Lusya HIFI TDA1543*4 ( https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32880513465.html )

This is the most intriguing one . From what I've read it does wonders to the sound and it due to some old but really nice Philips chipsets. Is it plug and play ? Would I need to buy a case for it ?
Intriguing as it should give R2R sound. It is a board only and honestly... it cannot be any good. Four DAC chips alone take 1W power. It is already to much for a typical phone. And a passive output for a headphone? This is a nonsense.

Most of people are happy from Delta-Sigma converters, but If you are about R2R portable sound indeed (by example listening to a classical, jazz and all kind of acoustic instruments), there is another product I do recommend:
Nobsound 8x TDA1387 DAC/HPA

Eight chips TDA1387 take only 220mW (four times less). It gives compatibility with most of phones. There are two S/PDIF outputs and RCA sockets. There is a passive I/V conversion, better than using cheap opamps, but impedance matching is required. Most preamps are 47kOhms, should not give a problem. It sounds very good when connected to the home HiFi system. Not fatiguing at all, you will listen to more music, I promise.

The interface chip CM108 is oversampling 4x (I think), it takes only 16/44.1kHz or 48kHz source. Not very modern, but it is a low power solution and no drivers required. A typical Android output is 48kHz anyway.

A headphone amplifier is based on the TDA1308 chip. It drives my 19 Ohms Sennheiser HD4.50 BTNC easy. Wiith HD600 the power is not in excess. Those who are listening loud will complain. A sound is not very detailed, so I tried FiiO E12A. It is better, gives much more details, but I think it doesn't match sound signature of the DAC well, it sounds to thin and electric. It doesn't justify to carry extra box and cables.

In summary, Nobsound gives very good portable R2R sound. I was also using it for one year on desktop before purchasing an Audio GD R2R11 DAC/HPA and HD600. Nobsound is outclassed, but it is not a shame for $42 device. I still use a Nobsound with HD4.50 on the road, now less frequently because of lockout.
 
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Apr 29, 2020 at 11:04 AM Post #218 of 328
Just one word right now, the real deal is: TEMPOTEC SONATA HD PRO

Its 40$. Ultra small. Just have volume control. But the sound is smooth, wide, ultra transparent and clean...so refined for such low price.

Can't agree with this enough. At 40 dollars it smokes every other dongle, regardless of price. The lone exception might be the 9038s, but that has its caveats, too.
 
Apr 29, 2020 at 1:46 PM Post #219 of 328
Can't agree with this enough. At 40 dollars it smokes every other dongle, regardless of price. The lone exception might be the 9038s, but that has its caveats, too.

Yeah, I adore the TEMPOTEC HD PRO....only alternative in term of similar supreme bargain is surely the Meizu HIFI DAC PRO, selling for about same price but having independant amp section, so it do not have output matching like the HD PRO (kind only drawback i can find about this marvel).

FIIO BTR3K is intriguing too as it have dual AK4377 dac and its like 2 times cheaper than the GREAT BTR5.

If you can find BTR5 on sale at around 100$ its really excellent.
 
Apr 29, 2020 at 1:59 PM Post #220 of 328
Yeah, I adore the TEMPOTEC HD PRO....only alternative in term of similar supreme bargain is surely the Meizu HIFI DAC PRO, selling for about same price but having independant amp section, so it do not have output matching like the HD PRO (kind only drawback i can find about this marvel).

FIIO BTR3K is intriguing too as it have dual AK4377 dac and its like 2 times cheaper than the GREAT BTR5.

If you can find BTR5 on sale at around 100$ its really excellent.
My Meizu is plagued by EMI noise due to bad shielding. It works fine over wifi, but over cellular it's completely unusable.
 
Apr 29, 2020 at 2:22 PM Post #221 of 328
My Meizu is plagued by EMI noise due to bad shielding. It works fine over wifi, but over cellular it's completely unusable.

what? that suck. didnt read that anywhere and i guess people use this on phone mostly....perhaps QC issue?

anyway, on NBBA group and lot of other audio groups it look like HD PRO is the favorite. It have volume contrrol which Meizu have not....and possibility to use different cable is a plus too.

Hum, im kinda searching something to buy right now (DAC, DAC_AMP or AMP)...but I want it to be supreme bargain like HD PRO lol...

Lately I use Walnut V2S with my Hifiman SUNDARA and it sound surprisingly great, I really suggest this ultra cheap DAP-DAC-AMP to everyone searching a fun but capable toy. A toy that sound excellent for its price. 20-25$.
 
May 2, 2020 at 7:30 PM Post #222 of 328
I was wondering if anyone who has tested some of these DACs can help me choose one . My budget is £35 unfortunately.

1. Lusya SA9023A + ES9018K2M USB portable DAC ( https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32932392383.html )

I've read good things about this and its apparently a rebrand of a differend DAC/AMP. Would it get hot if I keep it in use for 10 hours ?

(...)

My daughter has one connected to a Raspberry with Volumio. It's been allways on for almost all of this covid time (over 1 month), all the setup inside a closed cardboard box. It only gets "normal electronics hot".

I don't know any of the other models, but I like the sound on this one. And I normaly use iFi nano Black Label and Fiio BTR5.

Hope this helps.
 
May 3, 2020 at 7:30 PM Post #224 of 328
Not D30? It had good reviews, but what I received sounds rubbish. No more Topping.
 
May 3, 2020 at 8:19 PM Post #225 of 328
Not D30? It had good reviews, but what I received sounds rubbish. No more Topping.

Seems everyone had issues with D30, but I didn't get to review it in time, they replaced it with E30, which sounds great. Seems Audiosciencereviews also measured good stuff for it.

Not sure what the story was with D30 to be honest (?)
 

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