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ONKYO DP-X1 | Dual Sabre Dacs | Balanced | Sabre BTL Amp | MQA | DSD 256 | Android 5 |

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by t.r.a.n.c.e., Sep 11, 2015.
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  1. johnnybrick
    Correction: I only saw the DP-S1 firmware update on the USA site here: https://www.onkyousa.com/Downloads/firmware.php
     
  2. DBaldock9
    I bought a first generation DP-X1 (which they now call the DP-X1B - after they released the newer DP-X1A model) last Fall, and can say that the SW update for the DP-X1A works fine - since the H/W is basically the same for the two units.
     
  3. johnnybrick
    I'm not seeing any firmware updates on the USA and Europe websites. No biggy, but thanks for the response.
     
  4. howdy
    If you turn on the wifi and go to Google play store and find the Onkyo update, push it. I just updated my B just the other week.
     
  5. johnnybrick
    I'll try it! Thanks Howdy!
     
  6. addyg
    Dp-x1b = dpx1 first gen in black color

    Dp-x1a = dpx1 second generation with modified capacitors and resistors.

    There is no difference in Cpu / dac / opamp . So all firmware update (Android system update) and Onkyo Music update (the default player app) are applicable to both gen.
     
  7. addyg
    For those to recognize first and second gen dpx1 from casing. The first generation has silver color earphone plate. The second generation plate is black.

    All the first generation all sold out by March 2017. The second generation is still in production.
     
  8. DBaldock9
    Back in February, there was at least one user who reported that the new DP-X1A has a 3.5mm TRRS jack (with a Mic Input), and that they were able to use Skype with Earphones w/Mic on their unit.
    https://www.head-fi.org/threads/onk...d-256-android-5.780642/page-908#post-13238906
     
  9. DBaldock9
    There's also the X1A, engraved on the "top" earphone jack plate of the newer model... :wink:
     
  10. addyg
  11. Magick Man
    So I have in hand the DP-X1 (late production) and the DP-X1A (fresh off the assembly line)) and I'm A>B testing them. So far the only cans that reveal an audible improvement are my HD800S, Utopias, Sines, and my T1p, all running balanced. There's definitely not a huge difference. I'm going to do some SE testing next. I still think this is the best bargain in mid-range DAPs, by a big margin. You really need to go up the A&K chain to beat it outright (like the AK320) and it's much more versatile and stable (at least for me).
     
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  12. Tim Le
    Can you give a brief comparison between the two in balanced more? Thanks
     
  13. TheNoose
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    I want to agree with the overall status of this Onkyo. I have the DPX1. I am using balanced custom DT770 headphones wired strangely into a single 3.5mm pin by Custom Cans UK. Consequently I listen unbalanced. And I have two options for balanced listening. First is a balanced set of Shure S215's wired with a Fiio cable. Second is a SurfCables USA balanced cable for the DT770's. And I really can't hear any difference between balanced and unbalanced. They both sound fantastic! And I'm not joking...the sound is simply astonishing. With the Custom Cans Cable marginally better than the SurfCables balanced 2.5trrs cable.

    Here's the script on each cable from the suppliers:

    Custom Cans UK:

    This is an audiophile grade, ultra-low capacitance cable
    The cable is made using 84 strand litz copper, wrapped in coloured paracord of your choice, and hand braided here in the UK.

    Surf Cables:
    • "We use military grade aerospace silver teflon wire and other components. Note that the signal conduction, frequency response and durability requirements of the military and aerospace communities far exceed those of the audio community. Our raw wire is made by some of the largest wire companies in the world to exacting specifications not possible for many audio-only wire companies."
    As I mention the UK Custom Cans cable is better than the SurfCable. I've tried burning both in and yes the Surf Cable improved, no I left it running for 5 days on its own. Now they're very close yet still there is difference audible.

    Which leads me to say the balanced mode doesn't seem to improve over the 3.5 mm into balanced cans...
     
    Last edited: Sep 28, 2017
  14. Tennessee
    I definitely hear the difference between 3.5mm and balanced 2.5mm ACG with mine t5p.2 HP, currently driven with forza custom cable Claire Hybrid HPC.
     
    Last edited: Sep 28, 2017
  15. wormcycle
    Agree, I can hear the difference and it is not small. By the way the DP-X1 and T5p.2 synergy is remarkable over balanced connection. I use DIY Mogami cable with Eidolic connectors, It is the best "portable" setup I heard. Not that I heard that many :)
     
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