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ONKYO DP-X1 | Dual Sabre Dacs | Balanced | Sabre BTL Amp | MQA | DSD 256 | Android 5 |

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by t.r.a.n.c.e., Sep 11, 2015.
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  1. T.R.A.N.C.E.
    Onkyo and Pioneer collaborated on making the daps Onkyo DP-X1 and Pioneer XDP-100R. Onkyo actually owns Pioneer's AV division, so it's Onkyo pulling the strings behind both daps, and has thus set up the DP-X1 as the flagship of the two daps. Releases in November.
    Onkyo DP-X1 and Pioneer XDP-100R analog section differences:
    Onkyo DP-X1:
    Dacs: 2x ESS Sabre ES9018K2M
    Amp: 2x ESS Sabre 9601K in BTL config and Active Control Ground (an industry first).
    Outputs: Balanced 2.5mm, and Single ended 3.5mm.
    Power output: 150mW+150mW (balanced), 75mW+75mW (single ended). Supports 16Ω--600Ω.
    Output Impedance: 0.5 ohm (single ended), 1 ohm (balanced).
    Pioneer XDP-100R:
    Dac: 1x ESS Sabre ES9018K2M
    Amp: 1x ESS Sabre 9601K
    Output: Single ended 3.5mm.
    Power output: 75mW+75mW. Supports 16Ω--300Ω.
    Output Impedance: 0.5 ohm (single ended)
    DP-X1 and XDP-100R have the same digital section with industry leading performance:
    Android 5.1.1 (Onkyo and Pioneer will have their own skins and apps though) 
    Snapdragon 801 2.3ghz Quadcore
    4.7" 1280*720 HD screen (312 PPI)
    2GB RAM
    32GB internal storage
    Dual Micro SD slots (SDXC)
    Wifi 802.11AC, DLNA
    Bluetooth AptX
    Google apps, Spotify, Tidal, Deezer, etc
    MQA Playback (an industry first)
    PCM 384khz
    DSD 256
    Line Out
    3x Gain- Low/Normal/High
    Digital Out (via usb, up to DoP DSD 256 and PCM 384khz)
    usb OTG
    Volume Knob with 161 steps for fine control
    Sound Settings:
    -Stand alone mode: All transmitting electronics are disabled to produce best sq, screen, wifi, bluetooth, etc, and all their power supply circuits are all disabled, creating a pure audio environment.
    -11 Band Parametric EQ, max 16,384 adjustable bands, decimal dB increments, Finite Impulse Response filter to prevent sq degradation with eq.
    -Upsampling up to 384khz (Mode and Limit options also).
    -3 Digital Filters: Slow, Fast, Short Delay.
    -Lock Range adjust to eliminate jitter.
    -Real time conversion of PCM to DSD 128 (digital out only).
    -L/R balance
    Battery life 16 hours with hi-res.
    Machined Aluminium Unibody, Anodized Finish.
    Weight: 203g
    RMAA spec measurements: http://ohm-image.net/data/audio/rmaa-onkyo-dp-x1-24-bit
    DP-X1 Product Page: http://www.jp.onkyo.com/audiovisual/headphone/dpx1/index.htm
    DP-X1 Press Release: http://www.jp.onkyo.com/news/newproducts/audio/dp_x1/DP-X1.pdf
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    Onkyo DP-X1 and Pioneer XDP-100R will have two separate PCB's for the digital and analog sections to stop noise from digital components getting into the analog section.
    They also have "closed loop" circuitry for the dac and amp section to isolate it. The power supply is also distinctly positioned further away, to further isolate any noise from power supply.
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    CPU board, the processing is the most powerful of any dap yet.
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    ACG and BTL are two modes that can be used when in balanced 2.5mm connection with DP-X1. ACG is a mode that uses the 4 output's of the two amp's to provide two separated grounds for left and right channel's, similar to ZX2's TRRS output, but Onkyo also has "Active Control" over the two ground's. If you go to the trouble of balancing your hp's it seems you have two completely different output modes to play with, we get to enjoy a tech that other dap's don't have. Some other tech in the Onkyo that no other daps have include the lock range adjust for the timing of the PLL for the dac.
    Onkyo and Philips collaborated on creating 4 headphones designed to run balanced from the Onkyo DP-X1. Philips make some of my favorite headphones/iems, so I really look forward to these collaboration headphones shown below:
    E900M Hybrid iem: 3 way crossover, 1 treble BA + 1 Mids BA + 6mm Dynamic Driver. Aluminium enclosure, MMCX detachable cable, balanced ready.
    Open back A800, and Closed back H900M, both 50mm Dynamic Drivers with Aluminium enclosures. Also a portable closed back, H500M with 40mm drivers and aluminium enclosure.
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  2. Hawaiibadboy Contributor
    Love ONKYO as my deck is ONKYO and that eq parametric eq looks sick!! love it!
  3. kawaivpc1
    This looks much better than AK380 and AK240.
    If they offer this under $600, I'm buying it. 
    I hope they don't go mad on pricing like iRiver now. 
  4. Replicant187
    one journalist said it's gonna be under 100k yen.
  5. kawaivpc1
    1k yen is about 1000 USD or perhaps 900 USD....
    It should be under $600. Otherwise, it simply doesn't make ANY SENSE.
    A lenovo laptop with a 256GB SSD and quad-core i7 CPU is about 600 dollars now. 
    Are these guys making something better? obviously no. Even if they sound better than a phone, these devices aren't any better than Samsung, Lenovo, HTC's electronics in terms of price, quality, firmware, design, functionality, etc. 
    GrigoryV likes this.
    this is really good for music lovers and could spell the end of a&k streak with their ridiculous prices and ugly players.
    $1000 is maximum one should pay for a 'quality' dap (same goes for an iem)
    Soundtrap likes this.
  7. kawaivpc1
    No.. 1000 dollars is still too much for a music player.
    Steve Jobs charged only 200 dollars for the best music player of his time.
    I think $500 is more appropriate price since majority of amazing SSD quadcore CPU laptops and good Samsung smartphones are still cheaper than that.
    iRiver should totally resign from the market....$3500 DAP is the strangest thing I've heard. 
    I hope Onkyo guys are more reasonable. 
    GrigoryV and Bananiq like this.
  8. Replicant187

    Onkyo is more rasonable than iriver for sure but $500? no way.
  9. T.R.A.N.C.E.
    ^ I know but lets just wish anyway [​IMG]
    kawaivpc1 likes this.
  10. h1f1add1cted
    Lol check out the Tera Player only $7500 for a DAP.
  11. kawaivpc1
    When can we see this on Amazon?
  12. audionewbi
    Please do a bit of research, it is not even out yet buddy let alone available for purchase. 
    And before you ask no one knows how it sounds compared to AK380 :D
  13. audionewbi
  14. Hawaiibadboy Contributor

    Sexy mother ******. Damn....that big sexy screen is stealing via uber wild-fi... my cc pin # right through my PC monitor and I ain't even mad. That ain't my money...the thing on the desk is mine.....
    cobrabucket likes this.
  15. audionewbi
    I got to say I look forward to this combo. And the good news is they have not yet finished tweaking the exterior. 
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