[masterpfa]

  Has anyone listened to the DP-X1 directly vs the Mojo using any IEMs and what were the differences?
 
Thinking of going either Mojo + iPhone 6 or the DP-X1 for my Solars/K10s but can't go for both right now.
 
I'm also 99% tidal and having to put my iPhone in airplane mode to remove interference is a bit annoying

 

   
 

 

[Roadtech]

Where do I find the DP-X1 serial number for registration?

 

[golfpro]

  Has anyone listened to the DP-X1 directly vs the Mojo using any IEMs and what were the differences?
 
Thinking of going either Mojo + iPhone 6 or the DP-X1 for my Solars/K10s but can't go for both right now.
 
I'm also 99% tidal and having to put my iPhone in airplane mode to remove interference is a bit annoying

 

[morri]

You could just use your phone if you are going Bluetooth, that is why I sold my DP-X1 as I went Bluetooth and all of the internals are ignored. If you go Bluetooth it is the amp and the DAC inside the Bose speaker that do all the work, the Onkyo would just be a transport so no advantage over a phone for instance. I found the Bluetooth pretty good in terms of stability with the DP-X1, but the Bluetooth stability and range in my G3 is better.

You still have advantage of the pcm and dsd on the Onkyo to a phone

 

[Sonic Defender]

You still have advantage of the pcm and dsd on the Onkyo to a phone

Not with Bluetooth you don't. You will only hear what the target Bluetooth device is capable of.

 

[morri]

Ne

Not with Bluetooth you don't. You will only hear what the target Bluetooth device is capable of.

Firs time to know this. Nice info

 

[elizz]

Hi all, I am planning to buy a DAP which allow the 3rd party app (eg tidal) using the dual dac.
I've googling a lot to check if the DP-X1 able for this but I cannot find the answer.
Anyone knows? Or  suggest other player which could?

 

[MadDane]

You still have advantage of the pcm and dsd on the Onkyo to a phone

Not to mention, Bluetooth does not have the quality/fidelity that redbook or better digital format has right now.

 

[MadDane]

Since no one else responded I compiled my own comparison, though I could not find several spec.
 
 

Images					Wifi 802.11AC, DLNA Bluetooth AptX Google apps, Spotify, Tidal, Deezer, etc MQA Playback (an industry first) PCM 384khz DSD 256
Body Color	Smoky Blue ​	Stone Silver​	Gun Metal​	Gun Metal​	Black​
Body Material	Aluminum​	Aluminum​	Aircraft Grade Duralumin​	Aluminum​	Machined Aluminium Unibody, Anodized Finish.​
Dimensions	2.16" [W] x 4.37" [H] x 0.58" [D]​ 55 mm [W] x 111 mm [H] x 14.9 mm [D]​	2.16" [W] x 4.64" [H] x 0.58" [D] 55 mm [W] x 118 mm [H] x 14.9 mm [D] ​	2.59" [W] x 4.21" [H] x 0.68" [D]​ 66 mm [W] x 107 mm [H] x 17.5 mm [D]​	2.95” [W] x 4.42” [H] x 0.64” [D]​ 75.15 mm [W] x 112.4 mm [H] x 16.45 mm [D]​	(mm):128.9*75.9*12.7​
Weight	5.99 oz (170 g)​	6.24 oz (177 g)​	6.5 oz (185 g)​	7.65 oz. (217 g)​	203g​
Output Level	Unbalance 2.0Vrms /  Balance 1.7Vrms (Condition No Load)​	Unbalance 2.1Vrms /  Balance 2.3Vrms (Condition No Load)​	Unbalance 2.1Vrms /  Balance 2.3Vrms (Condition No Load)​	Unbalance 2.2Vrms /  Balance 2.3Vrms (Condition No Load)​	150mW+150mW (balanced), 75mW+75mW (single ended). Supports 16Ω--600Ω.​
DAC	Cirrus Logic CS4398 x1 (Single DAC)​	Cirrus Logic CS4398 x2 (Dual DAC)​	Cirrus Logic CS4398 x2 (Dual DAC)​	AKM AK4490 x 2 (Dual DAC)​	2x ESS Sabre ES9018K2M​
Frequency Response	±0.025dB (Condition: 20Hz~20kHz)  Unbalanced & Balanced​ / ±0.6dB (Condition: 10Hz~70kHz)  Unbalanced & Balanced​	±0.023dB (Condition: 20Hz~20kHz)  Unbalanced & Balanced / ±0.3dB (Condition: 10Hz~70kHz)  Unbalanced & Balanced ​	±0.023dB (Condition: 20Hz~20kHz)  Unbalanced & Balanced​ / ±0.3dB (Condition: 10Hz~70kHz)  Unbalanced & Balanced​	±0.053dB (Condition: 20Hz~20kHz)  Unbalanced & Balanced​ / ±0.56.dB (Condition: 10Hz~70kHz) Unbalanced: / ±0.55.dB (Condition: 10Hz~70kHz) Balanced​	SE No Load​ +0.02​ - 0.32​
Signal to Noise Ratio	115dB @ 1kHz, Unbalance  / 115dB @ 1kHz, Balance​	116dB @ 1kHz, Unbalanced  / 117dB @ 1kHz, Balanced​	116dB @ 1kHz, Unbalanced  / 117dB @ 1kHz, Balanced​	116dB @ 1kHz, Unbalanced  / 117dB @ 1kHz, Balanced​	120.3​
Crosstalk	127dB @ 1kHz, Unbalanced  / 130dB @ 1kHz, Balanced​	130dB @ 1kHz, Unbalanced  / 135dB @ 1kHz, Balanced​	130dB @ 1kHz, Unbalanced  / 135dB @ 1kHz, Balanced​	130dB @ 1kHz, Unbalanced  / 135dB @ 1kHz, Balanced​	-120.1​
THD+N	0.0009% @ 1kHz, Unbalanced  / 0.0008% @ 1kHz, Balanced​	0.0007% @ 1kHz, Unbalanced / 0.0005% @ 1kHz, Balanced​	0.0007% @ 1kHz, Unbalanced  / 0.0005% @ 1kHz, Balanced​	0.0008% @ 1kHz, Unbalanced  / 0.0007% @ 1kHz, Balanced​	0.035​
IMD SMPTE	0.0004% 800Hz 10kHz(4:1) Unbalanced​ / 0.0003% 800Hz 10kHz(4:1) Balanced​	0.0004% 800Hz 10kHz(4:1) Unbalanced / 0.0003% 800Hz 10kHz(4:1) Balanced ​	0.0004% 800Hz 10kHz(4:1) Unbalanced / 0.0003% 800Hz 10kHz(4:1) Balanced ​	0.0007% 800Hz 10kHz (4:1) Unbalanced / 0.0006% 800Hz 10kHz (4:1) Balanced ​	0.040% ​
Output Impedance	Balanced out 2.5mm (1ohm)  / PHONES 3.5mm (2ohm)​	Balanced out 2.5mm (1ohm)  / PHONES 3.5mm (2ohm)​	Balanced out 2.5mm (1ohm)  / PHONES 3.5mm (2ohm)​	Balanced out 2.5mm(1ohm)  / PHONES 3.5mm(2ohm)​	0.5 ohm (single ended), 1 ohm (balanced).​
Clock Jitter	50ps (Typ)​	50ps (Typ)​	50ps (Typ)​	30ps(Typ) / Reference Clock Jitter 200 Femto Seconds​	​
Memory	Built-in : 64GB [NAND]  / External : microSD (Max 128GB) x1​	Built-in : 128GB [NAND ] / External : microSD (Max 128GB) x1​	Built-in : 256GB [NAND]  / External : microSD (Max 128GB) x1​	Built-in : 128GB [NAND]  / External : microSD (Max. 128GB) x1​	32GB internal storage Dual Micro SD slots (SDXC) Max 1TB?   ​

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Model​

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AK100 Ⅱ​

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AK120 Ⅱ​

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AK240​

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AK320​

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DP-X1​

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[Sonic Defender]

  Hi all, I am planning to buy a DAP which allow the 3rd party app (eg tidal) using the dual dac.
I've googling a lot to check if the DP-X1 able for this but I cannot find the answer.
Anyone knows? Or  suggest other player which could?

Yes, this false rumor that the DP-X1 did not allow access to it's DAC architecture for third party apps has been proven false. The misunderstanding was that people assumed that apps that used software processing were able to do everything within the software domain, which was false. Such apps like Neutron will do some pre-processing within software, but the actual DA conversion must happen on the hardware DAC chip provided. So unless the DP-X1 provided a third DAC chip, which of course it doesn't, the hardware DAC, or DACs in balanced will be utilized the same as with the stock app.

 

[masterpfa]

  Yes, I have. I prefer the X-1 with my creative E5 because I like bass.  I keep trying to like the mojo, but I always go back to the E5.  If you like bass, I wouldn't recommend the mojo.  If you like the "reference sound" the mojo is great.  I don't think the mojo/X1 combo sounds much better than the X1 unamped.  The Sabre chips are notorious for being on the treble sign of things, the mojo seems to emphasize that.  The E5 has a lot more bass and a great EQ, so it is a good combo with the X1.

I think the Mojo has more than enough bass, IF it was there in the orininal recording in the first place. I have no problems with Bass reproduction with the Mojo
then again I do not use EQ either

Each to their own I guess
 

 

[Joe Bloggs]

Yes, I have. I prefer the X-1 with my creative E5 because I like bass.  I keep trying to like the mojo, but I always go back to the E5.  If you like bass, I wouldn't recommend the mojo.  If you like the "reference sound" the mojo is great.  I don't think the mojo/X1 combo sounds much better than the X1 unamped.  The Sabre chips are notorious for being on the treble sign of things, the mojo seems to emphasize that.  The E5 has a lot more bass and a great EQ, so it is a good combo with the X1.

I'd just say that the Mojo, being a DAC, can't really be affected by how another DAC (the Sabre in the X1) which isn't even utilized in the signal chain sounds like.

 

[howdy]

So I can say that I'm really liking this thing!!! My only issue is that when I download and or stream Tidal HIFI that when the song is playing (and it varies) the song will skip/pause for a second or less and if I rewind it to the same spot it wont do it so it has to do with the player or maybe my card.

 

[aarontww]

Hey peeps, I am in the midst of looking for a balanced cable. But was wondering... After looking at mine. It seems to have both copper and silver in it. As such, how possible and easy is it to convert it into a 2.5mm balanced cable? I guess not as simple as changing the plug?

 

[audionewbi]

Did you guys noticed any other improvement after burnin?