Onkyo DP-S1 Rubato / Pioneer XDP-30R Private

[coolcrew23]

Is it true that you can stream Tidal with this? I've seen conflicting posts.

 

[kel77]

Is it true that you can stream Tidal with this? I've seen conflicting posts.

At this moment it is a no until they add Tidal service.

 

[oscarp]

NOT GOT THE HANG OF POSTING YET OOP'S

 

[oscarp]

 

   
Owning the XBA-N3 and tried listening to the JVCs before even out of my WM1Z I'm willing to go out on a limb and say that it's the N3 that's making you wanting to go back to that set up. The N3 has a really fun and engaging sound and sounds great with just about any source, and at its current heavily discounted price punches well above its price point. 

 


I've recently got a pair of XBA-N3s having passed through SE846s, ie800s and RHA T20s. It seems like the less I pay the better the sound! I've paired them with a WM1A and balanced cable both of which cost more than the XBA-N3s! I really think they are fantastic value for money with really great build quality and a wonderful sound.

Hi
Which balanced cable did you buy to go with DPX - n3's
 
Barry

 

[corius]

Hi
Which balanced cable did you buy to go with DPX - n3's

Barry

I bought a Moon Audio Black Dragon cable with Pentaconn 4.4 mm plug and Shure MMX terminations. I use the N3s upside down with the cable going over my ears.

 

[shigzeo]

Just picked one up. Will post impressions and RMAA as soon as possible. 

 

[WCDchee]

Just picked one up. Will post impressions and RMAA as soon as possible. 

Do let us know if you hear anything about the transport function, I'm real curious about how it will sound with the mojo, it is after all just he right size. Also, the ability to control it from the phone makes the poly completely useless for my use.

 

[Luge]

Hi
 
I have found this on Onkyo's European website:
 
Dual-band 5 GHz/2.4 GHz Wi-Fi® Enables Music Streaming from TIDAL and TuneIn*1

*1 Addition of streaming service apps is planned with a future firmware update.

Nice to have future Tidal support confirmed.

 

[qsk78]

  Hi
 
I have found this on Onkyo's European website:
 
Dual-band 5 GHz/2.4 GHz Wi-Fi® Enables Music Streaming from TIDAL and TuneIn*1

*1 Addition of streaming service apps is planned with a future firmware update.

Nice to have future Tidal support confirmed.

Do they talk anything about the usb audio out?

 

[Luge]

  Do they talk anything about the usb audio out?

Here is the complete list. Available at http://www.eu.onkyo.com/en/products/dp-s1-138983.html?tab=Details
 
ADVANCED FEATURES

1. Audiophile Performance in a Compact, Portable, Practical Player
2. Twin SABRE ES9018C2M Digital-to-Analog Converters for Precision Hi-Res Audio Playback
3. Twin SABRE ES9601K Amplifiers to Drive 16–600 Ohm Headphones
4. Dual Clocks Automatically Detect 44.1 kHz and 48 kHz Signals to Assure Superior Timing Accuracy
5. Dual Headphone/Line Outputs for Balanced and Unbalanced Audio
6. Symmetrical Channel Layout Equalizes Signal Paths to Minimize Stereo Errors
7. Isolated Audio Circuit Design Minimizes Electrical Interference from Power Circuits
8. Supports Balanced Audio Output in Bridge-Tied Load (BTL) and Active Control Ground (ACG) Modes Employing  Twin DACs and Amps
9. Solid Aluminum Casing
10. Bright, Scratch-resistant 2.4-inch 320 x 240-pixel Touchscreen
11. Original User Interface Provides Fast and Intuitive Access to Music
12. Dual-band 5 GHz/2.4 GHz Wi-Fi® Enables Music Streaming from TIDAL and TuneIn*1
13. Bluetooth® Wireless Streaming Technology Plays to External Receivers (Profile: A2DP/AVRCP, Codec: SBC)
14. Supports MQA Hi-Res Audio Format*2
15. 192 kHz/32-bit Upsampling Mode Enhances Lower-resolution Audio Files
16. 16 GB Internal Memory Expandable to 416 GB with micro SD Cards*3
17. Long-life Rechargeable Battery Returns Up to 15 Hours Playback*4
18. Control Playback from Smartphone with Onkyo DapController App*5
19. External Metal Volume Wheel and Playback Control Buttons
20. 32-bit DSP Provides Fast, Efficient, and Stable Operation
21. Firmware Updates via Wi-Fi

PERSONALIZED PLAYBACK

1. Supports DSD 5.6 MHz/2.8 MHz, DSD-IFF, FLAC, ALAC, WAV, AIFF (Maximum 192 kHz/32-bit), AAC, and MP3
2. Balanced Audio Output via 2.5 mm (3/32˝) 4-Pole Headphone/Balanced Line Output for Compatible Headphones and  External Components
3. 32-bit Upsampling Modes for 88.2 kHz/176.4 kHz (44.1 kHz Signals) and 96 kHz/192 kHz (48 kHz Signals)
4. Three Selectable Digital Filters to Suit Music Style (Sharp/Short/Slow)
5. Seven-step Lock Range Adjustment (Wide/Normal/Narrow) Customizable for Phase-Locked Loop Timing
6. 10-band Equalizer with 6 Factory Presets and 3 Customizable Presets
7. Three-step Gain (Low/High/Normal) to Drive Low and High Impedance Headphones of Any Type
8. On-the-Go Playlist Creation Function, Skip/Scan, Play/Pause, Shuffle, and Repeat Functions
9. Sort By Artist, Album, Song, Playlist, Genre
10. Album Art Display, Song Information, and Audio File Information

CONNECTION FEATURES

1. Gold-plated 2.5 mm (3/32˝) 4-pole Headphone/Balanced Audio Line Output Terminal for Bridge-Tied Load (BTL) and Active Control Ground (ACG) Modes
2. Gold-plated 3.5 mm (1/8˝) 3-pole Headphone/Unbalanced Line Audio Output Terminal
3. Micro USB Terminal for Recharging and Data Transfer via Onkyo X-DAP Link Software for Windows® PCs*6
4. Dual micro SD card Slots

*1 Addition of streaming service apps is planned with a future firmware update.  *2 MQA support enabled with future firmware update. *3 Compatibility testing with 256 GB micro SD Cards is undergoing confirmation. *4 Playback at 32 ohms with 96 kHz/24-bit Hi-Res Audio. Individual results may vary with environmental and usage conditions. *5 Check App Store or Google Play™ for device and OS requirements. *6 Available for free download. Please consult Onkyo website for details.

 

[Luge]

I found a spec sheet / promo leaflet for the Pioneer XDP-30R here:
http://www.pioneer-audiovisual.eu/sites/default/files/datasheets/english/XDP-30R.pdf
 
I did not find any mention of USB audio out but the Tidal support seems like a sure thing.

 

[coolcrew23]

  Hi
 
I have found this on Onkyo's European website:
 
Dual-band 5 GHz/2.4 GHz Wi-Fi® Enables Music Streaming from TIDAL and TuneIn*1

*1 Addition of streaming service apps is planned with a future firmware update.

Nice to have future Tidal support confirmed.

this is awesome! since it's not android i'm guessing it has it's own app. i wonder if offline tracks can be stored or it's pure streaming.

 

[Prince16Pream]

The differences are appearance design, provided App inside and sound signature.
I read on http://www.e-earphone.jp/blog/?p=80811. There is short review below.

『private』は元気でメリハリの強い音、
Private : lively energetic sound and V-shape sound signature.

『rubat0』は隅々までクリアに余裕のある音という印象。
Rubato : Clear sound on whole frequency spectrum and there is a good headroom.

Translated by myself not Google.

 

[Prince16Pream]

Does anyone own Pioneer 100r , how they compare to 30 R in terms of audio quality. In my personal perspective it lacks loudness. I own HTC 630 phone it sounds same as the 100 R

 

[BartSimpson1976]

hm..as everywhere no sorting by "album artist". When will DAP makers understand that this is much more useful then just sorting by artist.