I think @SLC1966 did a comparison in this post on the previous page
Not sure if there's a more in-depth comparison promised, but that should be a good start for you
Noble Audio - the Wizard returns!
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I think @SLC1966 did a comparison in this post on the previous page
Not sure if there's a more in-depth comparison promised, but that should be a good start for you
wow, that's a sizable difference in shell size. Lovely Katana my friend.Katana: a long, single-edged sword used by Japanese samurai.
I have spent many hours with my venerable Katanas and they do cut through the music with precision. They are super exact and detailed. The Katana shell I have is the Wizard/Joy Collaboration. The sound is the same as the regular Katana. How does the Sultan compare to the Katana? It turns out that they do share a lot and therefore the differences are harder to discern.
I can give some rudimentary comparisons. The Sultan signature is more enveloping with a wider soundstage. The Sultan is maybe only one row more forward than the Katana but the Katana comes across as a little more bright in general. The treble of the Sultan is a little more pronounced and thicker than the Katana. The same applies to the mids. They are a little more thick. Not rounder and warmer but more thick and textured which therefore IMHO gives off a feeling of more warmth than the Katana.. The bass on the Sultan involves mid and sub bass and therefore more pronounced overall than the Katana. The sub bass of the Katana is more pronounced. I do not here much mid bass with the Katana. The imaging of both is phenomenal! The Sultan imaging is wider and taller, less intimate than the Katana. The Sultan is more musical. The Katana is more analytical.
My poolside stack...SP1000>Moon optical>Hugo2>Khan! This is a perfect pairing for me. Love the Khan! Sultan???
poolside?!? I wouldn't take that stack outside hahaha easily what... 7 grand there?
Tried listening to a bluetooth speaker but just didn’t cut it. When the grandkids come over, stack goes in (the house). The summers are so short here and soon the insects will come.
Living the high life. At least you can enjoy the audio bliss until the critters come (both variants).
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Thailand has a flie season. Absolutely anoying.
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holsen
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WoW, that's another stunner!Sycamore
holsen
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I could use some help here. I've got a set of M3s. Since new, it doesn't matter what cable I use, the the pins fit snug and secure into the left ear bud, but the right is so loose the cable continuously falls out. I tolerated it for a while but I'm using them more and more and it's driving me crazy - so this morning I finally stripped a single thin strand of copper speaker wire and put it into one of the sockets to use like a shim so that the pins will hold secure in the earpiece. It's working but there's got to be a better solution. Suggestions?
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Glue it
Sounds defective. Have you tried contacting Noble directly to get it resolved? I would expect they would take it back and fix it for you...
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Simple solution
Squeze the pin slightly with pliers, making them slightly oval rather than round.
Do this gradually, if you apply too much force you can make the pins too tight. The tolerances are very small, so it doesnt take much force to cause a change.
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Noble Sultan and Empire Ears Legend X
A little over two years ago a bit after the start of my IEM obsession, I purchased the Legend X. I ended up selling it about a month later.. Looking back I now know I let it go due to my lack of IEM nubility. I was younger and more innocent and lacked experience.
I was like a 15 year old trying to data a mature 20 year old. Just not ready! About a month ago, I was looking for a mature IEM that was an anomaly and nothing like anything else. My mind went back to that mature 20 year old. I was two years older and 40 IEMs more experienced. I have had the Legend X for a little over a month now. It fills the fun, dark, heavy, complex, mature IEM slot that was missing in my life.
And then the Noble Sultan showed up at my door last week. Well hello Sultry Sultan! Both are complex and mature in a different way. The Sultan wants your attention and keeps it.. Both are chameleons and can display their strengths in different ways depending on the song. The Sultan is a wonderful slightly forward W shaped, well layered IEM. To me the LX is an L shaped IEM. Bass gets the most attention (depending on the song), then the mids and then treble. The mids of the LX are the reason I will keep them. I need mids. I do not like scooped out. I also need vocals that are not hanging way back there. Both IEMs shine with vocals just in different ways.
What is wonderful is IMHO is that I could have just these two and be content. Well maybe not. I would need to throw in a smooth mellow warm IEM for those retirement moments!
LX has 2 DDs and 5 BAs. The Sultan has 1 DD, 4 BAs, and 2 Estats. Both take about the same effort to drive. Both have completely black backgrounds on my Cayin N6ii with E02 module.
The LX has a softer treble and is further back in the presentation. LX has thicker male vocals. Sultan has more intimate vocals. Sultan female vocals have a better timbre than LX. It is almost like the with the LX, the female voices are not being allowed to be at their best due to the darker emphasis with the LX.
LX has rounder notes. LX is warmer. LX has mildly thicker bass on songs that are not bass heavy (that says a lot about the quality of the bass of the Sultan). The Sultan bass is no slouch. It is a combination of visceral sub bass and mid bass on top of that. LX has more sub bass classic subwoofer sound.
The LX turns Fleetwood Macs song Dreams into a mellow and darker song with some nice sub bass thrown in. With the Sultan it is a super layered song with all parts mildly forward and asking for your attention.
The song Agbada Bougou from Tony Allen and Hugh Masekela consists off strictly bass. drums and Flugelhorn. Sultan emphasizes the cymbals with an amazing sub and mid bass. LX presents the song as darker with the sub bass emphasis and a fuller Flugelhorn and then cymbals are emphasized last. They take a wonderful song and make it sound great in two different ways.
Now take a bass heavy song like Lose Yourself To Dance from Daft Punk. LX presents scary scary goose bump inducing sub bass. It reminded me of being in my brothers Chevrolet Chevette many years ago with sub woofers that took up the whole back seat and part of the trunk. Then there is the rest of the song if you can make it through the Sub bass.
The Sultan presents the song in a more balanced fashion and more forward. The bass is still visceral and can be literally felt just not Chevrolet Chevette subwoofer felt. The vocals shine more on this song with the Sultan as well as everything else.
The LX is a classic and IMHO the Sultan will be a classic that is referenced in a good way as much as the LX. And that alone says a lot about the quality of sound coming from the Sultan. What is nice is that they both are amazing IEMs. They can both be in someones collection and coexist because they do not overlap much other than both bring joy but in different ways. I try not to keep them in the same drawer for storage. Personality conflicts and egos get in the way!
A little over two years ago a bit after the start of my IEM obsession, I purchased the Legend X. I ended up selling it about a month later.. Looking back I now know I let it go due to my lack of IEM nubility. I was younger and more innocent and lacked experience.
I was like a 15 year old trying to data a mature 20 year old. Just not ready! About a month ago, I was looking for a mature IEM that was an anomaly and nothing like anything else. My mind went back to that mature 20 year old. I was two years older and 40 IEMs more experienced. I have had the Legend X for a little over a month now. It fills the fun, dark, heavy, complex, mature IEM slot that was missing in my life.
And then the Noble Sultan showed up at my door last week. Well hello Sultry Sultan! Both are complex and mature in a different way. The Sultan wants your attention and keeps it.. Both are chameleons and can display their strengths in different ways depending on the song. The Sultan is a wonderful slightly forward W shaped, well layered IEM. To me the LX is an L shaped IEM. Bass gets the most attention (depending on the song), then the mids and then treble. The mids of the LX are the reason I will keep them. I need mids. I do not like scooped out. I also need vocals that are not hanging way back there. Both IEMs shine with vocals just in different ways.
What is wonderful is IMHO is that I could have just these two and be content. Well maybe not. I would need to throw in a smooth mellow warm IEM for those retirement moments!
LX has 2 DDs and 5 BAs. The Sultan has 1 DD, 4 BAs, and 2 Estats. Both take about the same effort to drive. Both have completely black backgrounds on my Cayin N6ii with E02 module.
The LX has a softer treble and is further back in the presentation. LX has thicker male vocals. Sultan has more intimate vocals. Sultan female vocals have a better timbre than LX. It is almost like the with the LX, the female voices are not being allowed to be at their best due to the darker emphasis with the LX.
LX has rounder notes. LX is warmer. LX has mildly thicker bass on songs that are not bass heavy (that says a lot about the quality of the bass of the Sultan). The Sultan bass is no slouch. It is a combination of visceral sub bass and mid bass on top of that. LX has more sub bass classic subwoofer sound.
The LX turns Fleetwood Macs song Dreams into a mellow and darker song with some nice sub bass thrown in. With the Sultan it is a super layered song with all parts mildly forward and asking for your attention.
The song Agbada Bougou from Tony Allen and Hugh Masekela consists off strictly bass. drums and Flugelhorn. Sultan emphasizes the cymbals with an amazing sub and mid bass. LX presents the song as darker with the sub bass emphasis and a fuller Flugelhorn and then cymbals are emphasized last. They take a wonderful song and make it sound great in two different ways.
Now take a bass heavy song like Lose Yourself To Dance from Daft Punk. LX presents scary scary goose bump inducing sub bass. It reminded me of being in my brothers Chevrolet Chevette many years ago with sub woofers that took up the whole back seat and part of the trunk. Then there is the rest of the song if you can make it through the Sub bass.
The Sultan presents the song in a more balanced fashion and more forward. The bass is still visceral and can be literally felt just not Chevrolet Chevette subwoofer felt. The vocals shine more on this song with the Sultan as well as everything else.
The LX is a classic and IMHO the Sultan will be a classic that is referenced in a good way as much as the LX. And that alone says a lot about the quality of sound coming from the Sultan. What is nice is that they both are amazing IEMs. They can both be in someones collection and coexist because they do not overlap much other than both bring joy but in different ways. I try not to keep them in the same drawer for storage. Personality conflicts and egos get in the way!
holsen
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Merci Beaucoup. I tried pushing the pins apart, pulling the pins together, but not squeezing & changing the shape of the pin. I'll give it a go.
