Noble Audio - the Wizard returns!
Aug 25, 2019 at 3:45 AM Post #30,946 of 36,065
I have the same problem as the guy. PWaudio connectors also come loose really easily

well honestly I really want to buy the noble audio cable, but its not balanced, so this is why the hunt for a balanced cable is difficult, as all my after market cables they do not fit in tightly, they all are loosely connected

I wonder why we can not ask for balanced cables from noble audio?

Hmm... then it looks like you guys may have to go for Noble's first-party balanced cables, or perhaps the ones they made with Wagnus.
 
Aug 25, 2019 at 4:07 AM Post #30,947 of 36,065
Hmm... then it looks like you guys may have to go for Noble's first-party balanced cables, or perhaps the ones they made with Wagnus.
I was looking at the gold x silver cable, but that as well is 3.5mm.

So I guess I will keep searching for an aftermarket cable, maybe one of the members here is using an aftermarket balanced cable with great fit

I am not so tempted to buy the 50 usd balanced cable
 
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Aug 25, 2019 at 8:50 AM Post #30,948 of 36,065
I do find the fact that Effect Audio Cables do not fit an issue with your product range. At Canjam I asked about that and none of their cables even fit my Encore (could not even be inserted). So I do not remove the stock cable at all. I was shocked that some of the best cables made will not fit at all. Tks.
 
Aug 25, 2019 at 10:27 AM Post #30,949 of 36,065
I do find the fact that Effect Audio Cables do not fit an issue with your product range. At Canjam I asked about that and none of their cables even fit my Encore (could not even be inserted). So I do not remove the stock cable at all. I was shocked that some of the best cables made will not fit at all. Tks.

I have an effect audio cable on a pair of IEMs built by me right now.

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The real question is,

When was the production run on those specific pins, the tolerances used at that point in time, and are they still being used today.

So many parameters can impact the fit. It is no secret we use Plastics One for our socket provider.... and they have been providing sockets for this industry since the beginning of this industry.
 
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Aug 25, 2019 at 10:30 AM Post #30,950 of 36,065
I was looking at the gold x silver cable, but that as well is 3.5mm.

So I guess I will keep searching for an aftermarket cable, maybe one of the members here is using an aftermarket balanced cable with great fit

I am not so tempted to buy the 50 usd balanced cable

We have a production run of balanced 8 core in process right now.

2.5mm and 4.4mm
 
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Aug 25, 2019 at 11:05 AM Post #30,951 of 36,065
I have an effect audio cable on a pair of IEMs built by me right now.



The real question is,

When was the production run on those specific pins, the tolerances used at that point in time, and are they still being used today.

So many parameters can impact the fit. It is no secret we use Plastics One for our socket provider.... and they have been providing sockets for this industry since the beginning of this industry.


I was the one trying to swap a cable for Frankie and it was just very tight. Why, I have no idea, I guess its a mystery that will never be solved. Maybe once in a blue moon someone gets something out of spec, whether its the cable or the IEM/CIEM. On the plus side, he doesn't have to worry about the cable randomly falling off. :wink:
 
Aug 25, 2019 at 12:00 PM Post #30,953 of 36,065
I've owned a lot of cables and IEMs and can somewhat confidently confirm that the newer EA 2-pin connectors (not the ones in John's photo) are slightly larger than other 2-pin connectors. They were a very tight fit in several of my IEMs, whereas PlusSound connectors for example fit without much resistance. Rhapsodio ones seem to be the largest. Read through the EE thread where the Dita Oslo 2-pin cable doesn't even fit in EE IEMs. I think certain cable manufacturers are slightly (or drastically) out of spec on the .78 2-pin standard. I don't have any data to back this up, just anecdotal cable rolling for the last two years with 20+ IEMs and 20+ cables :)

Long story short, there is nothing wrong with the Noble sockets I am fairly sure. You can see my post in the PW Audio Tour thread also where I tested nearly 10 different cables with my Katana :)

-Collin-
 
Aug 25, 2019 at 12:20 PM Post #30,954 of 36,065
In my experience Noble’s sockets are quite tight - I’ve ripped and bent cables trying to get them out or in of the sockets if I’m not really careful
My Katana is fine as well but my Sage had extremely tight sockets and the Savant is a medium. It’s nice once you find a cable for your IEM and don’t do as much cable rolling but sometimes it can be a bit problematic
 
Aug 25, 2019 at 1:22 PM Post #30,955 of 36,065
Hmm... then it looks like you guys may have to go for Noble's first-party balanced cables, or perhaps the ones they made with Wagnus.

I was looking at the gold x silver cable, but that as well is 3.5mm.

So I guess I will keep searching for an aftermarket cable, maybe one of the members here is using an aftermarket balanced cable with great fit

I am not so tempted to buy the 50 usd balanced cable

I was the one trying to swap a cable for Frankie and it was just very tight. Why, I have no idea, I guess its a mystery that will never be solved. Maybe once in a blue moon someone gets something out of spec, whether its the cable or the IEM/CIEM. On the plus side, he doesn't have to worry about the cable randomly falling off. :wink:

I've tried over a dozen balanced cables with my k10's and some were a bit tight, but they all worked.

They were all from aliexpress all @ $12 to $20 USD depending on design. I'm currently using an 8 core copper that tested the best (resistance & sound) and cost me $17 during the Chinese holiday sale, normal price $45.

Here: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/low...ck-cable-thread.891911/page-158#post-15144190

YMMV.
 
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Aug 25, 2019 at 1:27 PM Post #30,956 of 36,065
We have a production run of balanced 8 core in process right now.

2.5mm and 4.4mm

Greetings when can I place an order for the 8 core balanced 2.5mm
 
Aug 25, 2019 at 3:10 PM Post #30,957 of 36,065
Greetings when can I place an order for the 8 core balanced 2.5mm

I can check on that for you - I know we have been selling them at shows but I am not sure when they are going live on the site yet!

EDIT: @Sound Eq They will be live in two weeks on our site. We aren't doing pre-orders. It's going to be $200 for 2.5 and 3.5mm, 4.4 will be available as well but price pending.

Let me know if you have any more questions!
 
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Aug 25, 2019 at 3:24 PM Post #30,958 of 36,065
I was looking at the gold x silver cable, but that as well is 3.5mm.

So I guess I will keep searching for an aftermarket cable, maybe one of the members here is using an aftermarket balanced cable with great fit

I am not so tempted to buy the 50 usd balanced cable

I have the Null Audio Tiburon (balanced) with my Savant II and they fit together fine - no fear of the cable coming loose at at all. I'll have a play with some of my other cables tomorrow to see how they fit.
 
Aug 25, 2019 at 6:38 PM Post #30,959 of 36,065
At the end of the day

There is not one single pin provider and due to that, one can not expect all pins to be the same.

The same holds true with sockets.

Noble's responsibility is to provide a cable that fits the purchased IEM, as we certainly can not control anything beyond our doors.
 
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Aug 25, 2019 at 6:54 PM Post #30,960 of 36,065
Seems to me that the likelihood of a third party cable making an improvement over the supplied cable is vanishing small. A non problem.
 

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