NEW Schiit Lyr 2: Impressions
Jun 9, 2015 at 1:19 AM Post #1,216 of 2,168
meter apps are limited because mics found in phones or conventional microphones for computers are limited typically to a 90dB SPL peak. A 130 dB SPL meter would work better.

Agree on the meter. But I can see 110 db peaks (before I turn it down) on my iPhone 5S
Better to have some than no meter
 
Jun 15, 2015 at 9:55 PM Post #1,219 of 2,168
Is there a consensus on the best can pairing for the lyr 2?

Lyr 2 is very versatile and pretty clean. really works with a wide variety of headphones how it has different impedance settings. Haven't found anything that pairs poorly with it unless I dislike the headphone's sound signature in the first place.
 
just pick the headphones based on your sound signature preferences & the lyr 2 will work very well with it! :)
 
Jun 15, 2015 at 10:07 PM Post #1,220 of 2,168
Lyr 2 is very versatile and pretty clean. really works with a wide variety of headphones how it has different impedance settings. Haven't found anything that pairs poorly with it unless I dislike the headphone's sound signature in the first place.

just pick the headphones based on your sound signature preferences & the lyr 2 will work very well with it! :)

+1 well said sir. My lyr 2 drives all of my cans exceedingly well. I have used the lyr 2 to drive the following cans: the Beyerdynamic DT 880 600 ohm headphone, Alpha Primes, HE1K's and Audio Technica m50x . The lyr2 ran all these headphones quite well.
 
Jun 15, 2015 at 10:19 PM Post #1,221 of 2,168
  Lyr 2 is very versatile and pretty clean. really works with a wide variety of headphones how it has different impedance settings. Haven't found anything that pairs poorly with it unless I dislike the headphone's sound signature in the first place.
 
just pick the headphones based on your sound signature preferences & the lyr 2 will work very well with it! :)

Is the different impedance settings a new feature?  I know that you can adjust the input gain but if you can adjust the impedance it would really make the Lyr2 a flexible amp.
 
Jun 15, 2015 at 10:43 PM Post #1,222 of 2,168
  Is the different impedance settings a new feature?  I know that you can adjust the input gain but if you can adjust the impedance it would really make the Lyr2 a flexible amp.

oops I think I misspoke. i meant input gain. may have been thinkin about the ember with the impedance feature =S
 
thxs for the catch.
 
Jun 15, 2015 at 11:13 PM Post #1,223 of 2,168
  oops I think I misspoke. i meant input gain. may have been thinkin about the ember with the impedance feature =S
 
thxs for the catch.

Damn, I was thinking that having adjustable impedance would be a killer feature for the Lyr2, l like the feature on the Ember so was wishing
 
Jun 17, 2015 at 12:36 AM Post #1,225 of 2,168
How does the lyr2 do with hd800's, is it similar to the valhalla2?

Its okay, but not something that I would consider after building my BH Crack.  When I first got the HD-800 I had the Lyr2 and Project Ember and neither of these made the HD-800 sound like a TOTL headphone.  Just my opinion, YMMV
 
Jun 17, 2015 at 3:48 AM Post #1,226 of 2,168
  Its okay, but not something that I would consider after building my BH Crack.  When I first got the HD-800 I had the Lyr2 and Project Ember and neither of these made the HD-800 sound like a TOTL headphone.  Just my opinion, YMMV

Hey David,
It really depends on the listener- I'm glad you enjoy the Bottlehead crack with your HD-800. I'm listening to the HE-560 (HiFiMan).
My Mileage varies quite a bit depending on the tubes I use with the Lyr. I've mentioned before that it was shipped in error by Amazon when I ordered a Mjolnir. After hearing it with some Lovely Russian 6N23P's Reflektor SWGP 74's I bought from Rb2013- (which lead to a flurry of tube buying) it went from very good to superb with MMV!  My Ragnarok is on the way so I expect to be doing a lot of Non Scientific A/B switching. 
That said, I've not tried my HiFiman HE-560 with a Tube amp-only several SS and the Lyr Hybrid.
I ended up favoring Rb2013's favorite HG's, Siemens Cca 1966, some Amperex 7308's and a few others. The stock RCA's are quite good-but the Lyr really sings with some of the other tubes frequently mentioned.
 
Jun 17, 2015 at 4:09 AM Post #1,227 of 2,168
  Hey David,
It really depends on the listener- I'm glad you enjoy the Bottlehead crack with your HD-800. I'm listening to the HE-560 (HiFiMan).
My Mileage varies quite a bit depending on the tubes I use with the Lyr. I've mentioned before that it was shipped in error by Amazon when I ordered a Mjolnir. After hearing it with some Lovely Russian 6N23P's Reflektor SWGP 74's I bought from Rb2013- (which lead to a flurry of tube buying) it went from very good to superb with MMV!  My Ragnarok is on the way so I expect to be doing a lot of Non Scientific A/B switching. 
That said, I've not tried my HiFiman HE-560 with a Tube amp-only several SS and the Lyr Hybrid.
I ended up favoring Rb2013's favorite HG's, Siemens Cca 1966, some Amperex 7308's and a few others. The stock RCA's are quite good-but the Lyr really sings with some of the other tubes frequently mentioned.

Hear ya, I've also found that the tubes you use in the Lyr2 have a impact to how it sounds with various headphones.  I've gone down the rabbit hole with some tubes for the Lyr2, very similar to what you have listed.  The HE-560 sounds best with the Lyr2 but once in a while I like the slightly different tone of the Ember, and again depending on the tube I use.
As for the BH Crack its really a specialist amp designed for high impedance ones like the HD-800/650, DT--990 250ohm.  Most of my other headphones sound like poopoo on the BH Crack.
 
Jun 17, 2015 at 12:47 PM Post #1,228 of 2,168
Thinking of getting the bifrost uber along with the Lyr2.  What is your opinion of this combination for the new pair of Audio Technica W5000 I just bought.  I can get both of these for the price of the Audio Technica HA5000 amp made for the W5000 and I have read where it is recommended to pair this phone with tubes.  Never having a tube amp before I need some opinions. Luckily my hearing is still pretty good for being 67. LOL  Thanks guys.
 
Jun 17, 2015 at 3:33 PM Post #1,229 of 2,168
Thinking of getting the bifrost uber along with the Lyr2.  What is your opinion of this combination for the new pair of Audio Technica W5000 I just bought.  I can get both of these for the price of the Audio Technica HA5000 amp made for the W5000 and I have read where it is recommended to pair this phone with tubes.  Never having a tube amp before I need some opinions. Luckily my hearing is still pretty good for being 67. LOL  Thanks guys.


I have the combo paired with HE560. Let me just say that while bitfrost might enhance the sq, it won't make a night-and-day difference like an amp would. And even if you do notice a fair bit of improvement, you would more than likely get the same result using modi 2 for like 1/2 the price. (a friend has modi 2 uber and I'm speaking from my own comparison experience). If I were you, unless you need the versatility of bitfrost, I'd just get modi and use the rest of the money to invest in some nice NOS tubes for Lyr. Just my 2 cent.
 

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