NEW Schiit Lyr 2: Impressions
Jun 23, 2014 at 1:04 AM Post #31 of 2,168
Just got my LYR 2 in today after selling my LYR 1 and I'm super impressed so far.  I plugged in some amperior's along with the other headphones I own and it tackles them all with ease and has no hum or noise for me.  I find the presentation a little wider and deeper in soundstage and the improved powerstage/regulator surely puts out an even handed tonality with plenty of the original LYR's punch.
 
I have been running it all day and it seems to run hotter than the original LYR as well.  Does anyone know the recommended burn in for the LYR 2?
 
The Mullard 2492's work great in them as well.
 
Congrats to Jason and crew in making the LYR 2 an amp that is suitable to just about any headphone and provides a beautiful, powerful extended sound.
 
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Jun 23, 2014 at 1:14 AM Post #32 of 2,168
Just got my LYR 2 in today after selling my LYR 1 and I'm super impressed so far.  I plugged in some amperior's along with the other headphones I own and it tackles them all with ease and has no hum or noise for me.  I find the presentation a little wider and deeper in soundstage and the improved powerstage/regulator surely puts out an even handed tonality with plenty of the original LYR's punch.

I have been running it all day and it seems to run hotter than the original LYR as well.  Does anyone know the recommended burn in for the LYR 2?

The Mullard 2492's work great in them as well.

Congrats to Jason and crew in making the LYR 2 an amp that is suitable to just about any headphone and provides a beautiful, powerful extended sound.


+1, what he said (with Amprex Bugle Boys, Holland, though the stock tubes were very good).
 
Jun 24, 2014 at 8:48 AM Post #33 of 2,168
Just got mine delivered yesterday.  I have previously owned a Little Dot MKIII so I'll compare the Lyr 2 unboxing with that.
 
I've only unboxed mine this morning before heading to work - haven't even plugged it in yet.
 
Impressions on unboxing:
 
1.  The box is nicer and more compact than the Little Dot MKIII I got last year.  It's got the Schiit logo on it. Classy.
2.  On opening, I can see the Lyr 2 is "suspended" by two thick pieces of blue transport foam.  This is similar to the Little Dot MKIII.
3.  The tubes are in a smaller box inside the box and are cushioned inside cut out foam.  Once again, classy.  The Little Dot MKII shipped wiht the tubes already installed.
4.  The power cord is 2 meters (6 feet). Same as the Little Dot MKIII.
5.  Little black rubber feet are included.  I need to stick those on tonight.
6.  It's heavier than I thought it would be.  About the same weight as the Little Dot MKIII which also surprised me with its weight.
 
Can't wait to get home tonight to hook everything up and to give this amp a spin with my HD650s!
 
Jun 24, 2014 at 9:06 AM Post #34 of 2,168
I'm not going to upgrade to Lyr 2 because I'm going for a full upgrade to Schiit Ragnarok, but it would be interesting if Schiit would make it an option to upgrade for some money people who have Lyr 1...
 
Jun 24, 2014 at 10:12 AM Post #35 of 2,168
  Just got mine delivered yesterday.  I have previously owned a Little Dot MKIII so I'll compare the Lyr 2 unboxing with that.
 
I've only unboxed mine this morning before heading to work - haven't even plugged it in yet.
 
Impressions on unboxing:
 
1.  The box is nicer and more compact than the Little Dot MKIII I got last year.  It's got the Schiit logo on it. Classy.
2.  On opening, I can see the Lyr 2 is "suspended" by two thick pieces of blue transport foam.  This is similar to the Little Dot MKIII.
3.  The tubes are in a smaller box inside the box and are cushioned inside cut out foam.  Once again, classy.  The Little Dot MKII shipped wiht the tubes already installed.
4.  The power cord is 2 meters (6 feet). Same as the Little Dot MKIII.
5.  Little black rubber feet are included.  I need to stick those on tonight.
6.  It's heavier than I thought it would be.  About the same weight as the Little Dot MKIII which also surprised me with its weight.
 
Can't wait to get home tonight to hook everything up and to give this amp a spin with my HD650s!


I'd like to read your comparison between the 2 amps, I've sold the mkIII right after 2 weeks, I never really liked the sound, while I've always been extremely happy with other schiit products (asgard 2 and vali)
 
Jun 24, 2014 at 2:16 PM Post #36 of 2,168
My Lyr 2 should be delivered tomorrow. I am using it for my office setup with AK240 and AD. The AK240 is good enough with AD. But it's missing some oomph (power).

It will be interesting to see how the Lyr 2 works with the Ref1 IEM in low gain mode.
 
Jun 24, 2014 at 2:24 PM Post #37 of 2,168

 
It will be interesting to see how the Lyr 2 works with the Ref1 IEM in low gain mode.

 
It seemed to power my ASG-2's with little to no noise in low gain so I think it will do quite fine with IEM's, great balance of power and finesse!
 
Been using the LYR for single ended use with the Audio GD NFB 28 as the DAC and it's been a great combination.  Very neutral with just a touch of warmth and magic.  The LYR 2 is less juicy sounding the the LYR 1 ( I am under 100 hours though) but the soundstage and texture + imaging are all a slight step up.  It takes on that character that some of Ray Samuels more powerful amps do with a very constant voltage level, more even handed.
 
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Jun 24, 2014 at 2:51 PM Post #38 of 2,168
It seemed to power my ASG-2's with little to no noise in low gain so I think it will do quite fine with IEM's, great balance of power and finesse!

Been using the LYR for single ended use with the Audio GD NFB 28 as the DAC and it's been a great combination.  Very neutral with just a touch of warmth and magic.  The LYR 2 is less juicy sounding the the LYR 1 ( I am under 100 hours though) but the soundstage and texture + imaging are all a slight step up.  It takes on that character that some of Ray Samuels more powerful amps do with a very constant voltage level, more even handed.


Hopefully not a dumb question, my apologies if so, are you using the same tubes that you had in the Lyr 1? My Lyr 2 with the stock tubes also sounds less "juicy" than with Amprex "Bugle Boys", Holland (wonderful tubes).

On another note, with my PSB M4U1's and SONY XB5-A's (1 ohm) IEM's I am not having any noise issues at all, in low gain. Severe over-kill, but silent. With my 650's and the Lyr 2 in high gain, they rock. Cannot really compare to my Valhalla 1 because I had some gain issues with the Unit, waiting to hear from Nick as to what the problem is, also want to try the Lyr 2 with HE560's, AD's, or HD800's at the Nashville Meet.
 
Jun 24, 2014 at 3:05 PM Post #39 of 2,168
Hopefully not a dumb question, my apologies if so, are you using the same tubes that you had in the Lyr 1? My Lyr 2 with the stock tubes also sounds less "juicy" than with Amprex "Bugle Boys", Holland (wonderful tubes).

 
No not dumb!
 
Using the same Mullard 2492's that I had in the LYR 1.  I also find the stock tubes a bit brittle and lean.
 
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Jun 24, 2014 at 3:27 PM Post #40 of 2,168
Thanks! While I was typing my last message I received 4 Voskhod Rockets from my Brother-in-Law, just dropped them into the Lyr, clean, clear, but the are a bit lighter and brighter than the Amprex, is this your experience? Need to listen to some more music tonight and see which I prefer. Back to work.
 
Jun 24, 2014 at 5:05 PM Post #41 of 2,168
Thanks! While I was typing my last message I received 4 Voskhod Rockets from my Brother-in-Law, just dropped them into the Lyr, clean, clear, but the are a bit lighter and brighter than the Amprex, is this your experience? Need to listen to some more music tonight and see which I prefer. Back to work.


I actually haven't tried anything too much besides the Mullard's as I did some rolling when I first got my LYR 1 and then found the Mullard's and have been happy ever since.  I did try some other more inexpensive stuff but haven't had the urge to try much else.
 
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Jun 24, 2014 at 5:15 PM Post #42 of 2,168
I am currently evaluating with my Lorenz Stuttgart PCC88's which I have used in my Lyr. They are more dimensional than the stock tubes giving the instruments a more "physical" manifestation. They are not quite as bright as the stock tubes; however, I have not run them long enough to see how they break in. I have also used my Voskhod 6N23P Rockets 1978 Silver Shields but haven't yet settled on the best match with my HD700's.
 
Jun 24, 2014 at 6:00 PM Post #43 of 2,168
I am currently evaluating with my Lorenz Stuttgart PCC88's which I have used in my Lyr. They are more dimensional than the stock tubes giving the instruments a more "physical" manifestation. They are not quite as bright as the stock tubes; however, I have not run them long enough to see how they break in. I have also used my Voskhod 6N23P Rockets 1978 Silver Shields but haven't yet settled on the best match with my HD700's.


Just picked up some Voskhods for my Lyr 2, and am comparing them to Amprex Bugle boys, made in Holland. My initial impression is the Voskhods are brighter, a little hot, crystal clear, can understand every word exchanged between Rudy VanGelder and Lee on the "Warm-Up and Dialogue Between Lee & Rudy" on the Art Blakey & the Jazz Messengers, Blue Note 4003 which is good, but maybe a bit too much of a good thing. The Amprexes just flow, with body and lush goodness. Not to turn this into a tube rollers thread, but am interested in your impressions?
 
Jun 24, 2014 at 9:17 PM Post #45 of 2,168
This amp runs hot!  Even the volume knob gets quite warm/hot to the touch...is this normal?


Yes, I was told it would run hotter than the Lyr 1 and Valhalla 1, it is definitely a little space heater, but man it sounds so good!
 

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