[davesday]

The M0 is a great little micro player. Sound quality is great, but I don't have much in the way of DAPS to compare it to other than some of the Sony NWZ high res smaller units from a few years ago.

Thanks for the info! I received mine on Monday and I can agree it one very useful little DAP. I said useful because it is so flexible. It can work as a USB transport to my DAC/AMP or USB DAC receiver on my iOS devices. I think it should also work with PC/Mac. It also works as Bluetooth transport or Bluetooth DAC receiver over my iOS/PC/Mac. At work, it would be hooked up to my iPhone streaming Spotify. While commuting, it would be connected via Bluetooth to my iPhone. It sounds great with the Atlas. Most of its tonality is preserved. It is definitely brighter than Fiio i1 and my other equipment. It is definitely an upgrade for my 'at work' equipment. I can sense some harshness in some songs. Maybe it is the constraint with the M0 because it is not present on my Sony WM1A or my iFi iDAC2.

What filters are you preferring? I seem to be sitting on the default minimum phase slow. I know what they all means but still learning what kind effects they will have on the Atlas.

hey guys, update! i bought the last pair of atlas’s in NYC at Audio46. You guys were right, the Vegas had amazing seal that the Atlas can’t achieve how do u guys wear urs? what tips work the best? currently using spinfit double flange.

forsure the clarity is improved but to be honest i think the vegas were more fun because they were louder. tomorrow i’m going to buy a MOJO and see how the pair works.

any recommendations guys? on how to wear? what amp?

is the vega discountined? i honestly want one too and fyi shoutout to audio46 they didn’t charge me a restocking fee

Wow you act quick.
I think you have been pre-empted about the fitting and seal. So you're now on a journey on ear tip discovery. I have SpinFit dual-flange. They don't work for me. The normal SpinFits works for me but is prone to driver flex on my left ear. I am now using the included Final E. You should go through the sizes and see which one works for you. Or just use the stock foams (if you like that). I have ordered the Symbio MandarinEs W and still waiting for them to arrive.

I think the Atlas is louder but the fact that you mentioned Vega is louder could be due to fitting and seal. Regarding wearing style, check my replies to you and also few pages back. Best to experiment what works for you since you already have it.

For AMP, I think there are many options just as good as MOJO. Most important is the synergy (whether one IEM/headphone works well with it) and your preference. This is something that shouldn't be rushed. You already planned to get one so I must assume you already have the budget for it. Enjoy the research/purchasing experience for as long as you can.

 

[fuhransahis]

My Campfire Atlas vs Vega

Atlas definitely has more sparkly treble, fantastic bass as always (more controlled than the Vegas but somehow I still think the bass in the Vegas is stronger however that resulted in muddled mids)

Happy exchange honestly both are exceptional earbuds. Kinda miss my Vegas just because of the loudness, but God they were ugly

Think of Atlas as a more clear Vega but with controlled loud bass instead of the Vegas’s huge bass.

Or think of the Atlas as an Andro that’s is more cohesive with much better bass but still retains that sparkly treble however still cant beat the Andros imho
I honestly think the differences in the Vegas and Atlas are very small, as I talked with a Campfire employee who he said the difference was only around 10% if he had to put a number on it!

but wow does anyone here prefer the Vegas over the Atlas?

Honorable mention: the Andros were exceptional technical. clarity, sparkly, wide soundstage and depth, but didn’t have that musicality and the emotion the Vegas/Atlas have

As per your loudness comment, that makes me think you're playing the Atlas straight out of your phone, no? If so, while they can be played out of your phone, you are getting them nowhere near as good as they can be, or as loud as they can.

As for a suggestion I was not a fan of the Mojo/Vega pairing so I assume it will be similar with the Atlas. If felt like it could be more dynamic than it was with that pairing and it turned out to be very true in my case.

You can also get a DAP that will serve you better - to me it's less bulky than having a Mojo strapped to your phone and you get no RF interference. Various options for different budgets/needs.

 

[notorious4163]

Thanks for the info! I received mine on Monday and I can agree it one very useful little DAP. I said useful because it is so flexible. It can work as a USB transport to my DAC/AMP or USB DAC receiver on my iOS devices. I think it should also work with PC/Mac. It also works as Bluetooth transport or Bluetooth DAC receiver over my iOS/PC/Mac. At work, it would be hooked up to my iPhone streaming Spotify. While commuting, it would be connected via Bluetooth to my iPhone. It sounds great with the Atlas. Most of its tonality is preserved. It is definitely brighter than Fiio i1 and my other equipment. It is definitely an upgrade for my 'at work' equipment. I can sense some harshness in some songs. Maybe it is the constraint with the M0 because it is not present on my Sony WM1A or my iFi iDAC2.

What filters are you preferring? I seem to be sitting on the default minimum phase slow. I know what they all means but still learning what kind effects they will have on the Atlas.


Wow you act quick.
I think you have been pre-empted about the fitting and seal. So you're now on a journey on ear tip discovery. I have SpinFit dual-flange. They don't work for me. The normal SpinFits works for me but is prone to driver flex on my left ear. I am now using the included Final E. You should go through the sizes and see which one works for you. Or just use the stock foams (if you like that). I have ordered the Symbio MandarinEs W and still waiting for them to arrive.

I think the Atlas is louder but the fact that you mentioned Vega is louder could be due to fitting and seal. Regarding wearing style, check my replies to you and also few pages back. Best to experiment what works for you since you already have it.

For AMP, I think there are many options just as good as MOJO. Most important is the synergy (whether one IEM/headphone works well with it) and your preference. This is something that shouldn't be rushed. You already planned to get one so I must assume you already have the budget for it. Enjoy the research/purchasing experience for as long as you can.

LOL, thank you. what amp would you recommend for the atlas? everyone has been recommending me the mojo budget 600 tops (mostly listen to edm)

 

[notorious4163]

As per your loudness comment, that makes me think you're playing the Atlas straight out of your phone, no? If so, while they can be played out of your phone, you are getting them nowhere near as good as they can be, or as loud as they can.

As for a suggestion I was not a fan of the Mojo/Vega pairing so I assume it will be similar with the Atlas. If felt like it could be more dynamic than it was with that pairing and it turned out to be very true in my case.

You can also get a DAP that will serve you better - to me it's less bulky than having a Mojo strapped to your phone and you get no RF interference. Various options for different budgets/needs.

what amp would you recommend for the atlas? everyone has been recommending me the mojo budget 600 tops (mostly listen to edm)

 

[fuhransahis]

what amp would you recommend for the atlas? everyone has been recommending me the mojo budget 600 tops (mostly listen to edm)

If you are looking for a DAC/Amp the ifi Micro iDSD Black Label is probably your best choice in that price range for pure SQ purposes but is far less portable.

If you are open to a DAP the iBasso DX150 ($569) is your best option for both SQ and portability in that price range IMO. If you can do an extra $200 then add the Amp 8 module for the DX150 and you have yourself a sweet setup, though you'll also need a cable with a 4.4mm termination, which is extra. If you strongly want to avoid buying another cable then Amp 7 is a great option, as you can keep the stock cable.

 

[Roscoeiii]

If you are looking for a DAC/Amp the ifi Micro iDSD Black Label is probably your best choice in that price range for pure SQ purposes but is far less portable.

If you are open to a DAP the iBasso DX150 ($569) is your best option for both SQ and portability in that price range IMO. If you can do an extra $200 then add the Amp 8 module for the DX150 and you have yourself a sweet setup, though you'll also need a cable with a 4.4mm termination, which is extra.

Agree with all of the above. Or if you are open to changing phones, the LG V10/V20/V30 has a DAC/amp powerful enough to drive Vega and/or Atlas. But I'd take the iDSD micro BL over the LG (I own both).

But yeah the iDSD Micro BL is damn amazing. My Andros and Vegas sound incredible out of it, and it can power hard to drive planar cans like HE-560s or the HE5LE from HifiMan. One sick piece of equipment. With more oomph and dynamics than the Mojo for sure.

 

[davesday]

LOL, thank you. what amp would you recommend for the atlas? everyone has been recommending me the mojo budget 600 tops (mostly listen to edm)

I think it should be less what people think is good for you but rather what you prefer. You have to separate the hype and work out what sounds nice because your own circumstances affects that (e.g. the music you prefer, the music you have, the format they are in, etc). But their suggestion and mine would give you a point to start. When I started this hobby journey few years ago, I went on a spending spree. Good thing it was just low end stuff.

I would suggest the following to test out (in no particular order or price but well within $600). I am also assuming you require portability so the DAC/AMP has to be battery powered. After that you should go onto the respective threads on Head-fi to learn what other users say about them.

1. Sony PHA-2A - safe choice for me. Based on 'ES9018K2M sound' but with Sony's house signature. Size is big though.
2. iFi Nano iDSD BL - great little device not too expensive. Never had a chance to test.
3. iFi xDSD - the only reason I recommend this is versatility. It can operate over Bluetooth. However beware it is buggy as hell but iFi will fix them in due time. Also sounds very warm on my Atlas.
4. Fiio Q5 - very similar to xDSD but without the warm signature. Slightly cheaper and also allows expansion by swapping out AMP modules.
5. Mojo - I had this long time ago but I remember it as clean sounding and clear. However at times it feels too clinical for me. I had the ATH-IM04 back then. I don't have impressions with Atlas.
6. If you don't mind a much larger setup, test the iFi Micro iDSD BL as well.

I currently have the PHA-2A new. Don't plan to keep it though because I plan to consolidate this role with my desktop application. It would do double duty as desktop PC and portable DAC if I want to stream music.

 

[dpwolfordMD]

Notorious: hey man sounds like you’re on the right track getting the Atlas instead of the Vega. I dont doubt for a moment that they were willing to waive the restock fee since you were spending even more money w them. Campfire did the same for me twice! needless to say I have the Atlas now.

as far as amps, i’ve had the ifi micro black label but it is way overkill for the Atlas. when I had mine it was for an Audeze LCD-2. way overkill for the Atlas. Possibly the Nano might the ticket if you’re at a desk. meant to try one out in my pocket but was handed their new iDXD instead. I tried a mojo and fiio Q5 as well. the sleekness, fit in my pocket and overall finish of the Q5 led me to buy it for my purely portable Atlas setup linked to my iphone.

on the tips, I ended up getting the JVC spiral dots from a Japan seller on ebay. hated mandarins and spinfits. just my 2 cents

hope this info helps!

 

[davesday]

on the tips, I ended up getting the JVC spiral dots from a Japan seller on ebay. hated mandarins and spinfits. just my 2 cents

I had tried Spiral Dots. Are they just one type for all barrel size? I bought mine in Japan. Unfortunately they went straight through the barrel of the Atlas with no stoppers. So all the dots were 'covered'.

 

[notorious4163]

Notorious: hey man sounds like you’re on the right track getting the Atlas instead of the Vega. I dont doubt for a moment that they were willing to waive the restock fee since you were spending even more money w them. Campfire did the same for me twice! needless to say I have the Atlas now.

as far as amps, i’ve had the ifi micro black label but it is way overkill for the Atlas. when I had mine it was for an Audeze LCD-2. way overkill for the Atlas. Possibly the Nano might the ticket if you’re at a desk. meant to try one out in my pocket but was handed their new iDXD instead. I tried a mojo and fiio Q5 as well. the sleekness, fit in my pocket and overall finish of the Q5 led me to buy it for my purely portable Atlas setup linked to my iphone.

on the tips, I ended up getting the JVC spiral dots from a Japan seller on ebay. hated mandarins and spinfits. just my 2 cents

hope this info helps!

so helpful thanks. so would you recommend the mojo? how was the sound (i listen to edm) i also need something portable but doesn’t have to be pocket size. how was the sound quality mojo vs Q5

and what do you mean the micro dsd was overkill it’s not a good choice?

 

[notorious4163]

what are the best portable amps? for an iphone

 

[Roscoeiii]

so helpful thanks. so would you recommend the mojo? how was the sound (i listen to edm) i also need something portable but doesn’t have to be pocket size. how was the sound quality mojo vs Q5

and what do you mean the micro dsd was overkill it’s not a good choice?

If you are in NYC I imagine there must be dealers ever you can audition things. A
That's your best bet. Or find online dealers with good return policies.

Mojo: Clean sound. Not as big on dynamics. A bit lean. Great details. Big RFI interference problems when used with smartphone.

iDSD Micro BL: More dynamic, more oomph. More meat on the bones. Fuller sound (tho maybe at the slight expense of details compared to Mojo). More versatile (built in 3D effect, bass boost, 3 power options, built in IEM match). Bigger footprint. It may be considered overkill since you may not need the power. But it is remarkable that it pairs so well with both sensitive IEMs and power hungry cans.

There may be poor matches out there (too little power, to much hiss, impedance too high or low), but neither Mojo or iFi would be a poor match on that sort of basis. Much more a factor of personal preference.

Try them yourself.

 

[Roscoeiii]

what are the best portable amps? for an iphone

OK. You've been non-stop with questions today. Probably also time for you to start using the Headfi search function.

 

[notorious4163]

sorry guys im done. y’all are amazing

 

[ufospls2]

I've really been enjoying the Hifiman RE2000, but I'm back to listening and comparing with the Atlas today. I am trying the stock double flange silicon tips (medium) that come with the Hifiman RE2000 on the Atlas. So far, these are actually the best sounding tips I have tried I think. I am still getting the very annoying driver flex/suffocation problem, which only goes away with the marshmallow foam tips. However, the Hifiman double flange's tame the treble a tiny bit vs the CA single flange silicons, but still leave a bit of sparkle. Really enjoying this combo.