[MHinGA]

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Does that include the Edition 8?  I'm looking for a really good closed headphone and not sure what to buy.  Also, do the 1350s have that same sort of metallic tone to them that the other Beyer's I've heard (770/880/990, T50p, and T1) have?

I can't speak to your Beyer questions, but as for closed headphones, the Ultrasone Ed. 8 is top-of-the-line (and you'll pay tops as well). If portability is less of an issue, I like the Denon AH-D7000 (I use it at night as a bedroom headphone). You'll find plenty of commentary about both of the aforementioned headphones in the forums.
 

 

[maverickronin]

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I can't speak to your Beyer questions, but as for closed headphones, the Ultrasone Ed. 8 is top-of-the-line (and you'll pay tops as well). If portability is less of an issue, I like the Denon AH-D7000 (I use it at night as a bedroom headphone). You'll find plenty of commentary about both of the aforementioned headphones in the forums.
 

 
 
Portability isn't an issue, though isolation is because my hose is pretty noisy.  The D7000 doesn't really count as a closed headphone IMO, because its got almost no isolation at all.  I've owned both the 2000 and 5000 and neither of helped much in that regard and the isolation measures the same on the 7000s.  I don't need IEM level isolation at home (most of the time) but the Denons barely have more than my HD650s.  For that much money I'd love to get the LCD-2 but I'd make myself go deaf from fighting with the all the background noise.
 
I'm prepared to spend the money on something like the ED8 if the quality is there but it seems hard to ascertain without spending the money first.  I've found that my SE530s surpass pretty much all the mid-priced 'phones I've tried in most all of the areas I care about.  The exception is soundstage, but I don't want to give up everything else for it.  I'd also like something more convenient.
 
I heard the ED8 once, but at the time it was so far out of my price range I didn't take notes or bother to remember anything other than it was pleasant.  I just can't remember how much.  I was also fairly new to headphones of that level at the time so I can't even trust such a vague feeling.  Very frustrating...
 
Thank you for the reply!

 

[shamu144]

My feelings exactly with the metallic voicing of T1, and to a lesser extent, DT880 (though this one had more treble energy to my ears than the T1). I just hope it is not there with the DT1350.
 
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Does that include the Edition 8?  I'm looking for a really good closed headphone and not sure what to buy.  Also, do the 1350s have that same sort of metallic tone to them that the other Beyer's I've heard (770/880/990, T50p, and T1) have?

 

 

[maverickronin]

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My feelings exactly with the metallic voicing of T1, and to a lesser extent, DT880 (though this one had more treble energy to my ears than the T1). I just hope it is not there with the DT1350.

Ha!  So I'm not crazy after all.  I just couldn't understand it when I saw someone write that the T1 had lush mids after I'd heard it myself and found them to be metallic and unnatural.

 

[strawBoss]

 

For me it boils down to preferred signature and type of music.  The HD25's to me are great with rock, quite punchy and fun, with sparkly treble and fairly impressive, punchy bass for on ear cans.  The DT1350's offer more detail, nice treble extension but a bit less sparkle, and nice tight accurate bass, but without the punch of the HD25's, and rich, full mids.  My listening leans more to acoustic, vocals, jazz and classical, then prog rock and 70/s through 90's rock.  The DT 1350's are more my style (save for the rock, but decent with that), and I sold my HD25's to someone who loves that sound, and was underwhelmed with my 1350's.
 
Isolation is a draw to me, or a lean to the HD25, contrary to other opinions I've heard.  Comfort leans to the HD25, if one can call either comfortable.  Cool factor to the DT's, incognito to the HD's.  Bullet proof and rebuildable to the HD25's, durability is likely a draw, the DT1350's really feel solid, well built and high quality.  The cable is not as bad as everyone seems to think.  Portability and packability to the DT1350's and their cool little case.
 
So, worth an extra $100? to me, sure.  Headphones are my luxury, and $100 in that price range isn't too extravagant.  If I was more of a rocker (as I used to be!) I'd go for the HD25's and be happier regardless of price.
 
Last, HD25's are more fatiguing to me.
 

I echo these impressions completely. In my comparison thread I never really indicated a final decision, but as much as I love my HD25s I've decided to sell them for many of the same reasons as aamefford. Personally, in the end, like aamefford, it became a question of what style of music I listen to predominately, not which was a "better" phone. The other factor, and this may be age speaking, I prefer the DT1350 at lower listening levels.

As for price, after years of pouring money into video and camera equipment I've learned one thing, electronics and digital gear have a short life span, whereas speakers, mics, and headphones hold their value. The $100 difference between the HD and the DT is minor when stretched over the life cycle of a head phone.

An edit item, some earlier comments about marketing names have got me to thinking, it's time to forego any product that alludes to something previously noteworthy. No more Ford Mustangs, or Pintos. I'll never eat in a Hard Rock cafe, or fire, or drink a Colt 45 (hopefully none of us ever need to). Numerical names are okay as long as they don't infringe on a legend. A black and red MJ23 anything is strictly off limits. Panetone code paints are okay, but the "Sahara" color in my living room will have to be painted over. No, from now on I'll only buy, use, or consume products with completely made up names like Viagra, or Cialis.

 

[rovex]

Beyerdynamic has a very nice & informative photo booklet on facebook relating the creation story of the DT1350 with behind the scene information:
 
Beyerdynamic DT1350 Story
 
Seems a lot of efforts went into this model...

If a team of 5 people are building every single one out there I'd be impressed!

 

[Twinster]

Alright I bought some DT-1350 over the weekend I'm now waiting for them and hope that they will improved on the T50p that I've owned and appreciated somewhat.

 

[knopfy]

@rovex: they do...be impressed NOW

 

[MayaTlab]

Argh can't wait to get my hands on a DT 1350 + HM-601 combo !

 

[DigitalFreak]

I'm still impatiently waiting. Still got a long 4 to 6 weeks to go. I hope whoever placed the order knew what he was doing and didn't forget to hit the enter key when he typed in the order. It would really suck to know I've been waiting all that time and my order hasn't even left their warehouse.

 

[Cosmic Fool]

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I'm still impatiently waiting. Still got a long 4 to 6 weeks to go. I hope whoever placed the order knew what he was doing and didn't forget to hit the enter key when he typed in the order. It would really suck to know I've been waiting all that time and my order hasn't even left their warehouse.

I feel for you. Why does it have to take so long if I may ask? I've ordered this headphone last Wednesday and I have received it today. The fact that I live in a neighbouring country of Germany helps a lot of course. I will post some first impressions tonight. 
 
 

 

[GLdgShDjKsHT]

cant wait for your first impressions, cosmic
 
and btw, can anyone compare these to the AIAIAI TMA 1?? thank you

 

[badbob]

I have never heard bass like the 1350 it will seriously surprise and amaze you. If you have real serious bass on your music that is.

 

[Cosmic Fool]

 
[size=13.0pt]Time for my first impressions. I've had about three hours of listening time. I am not an experienced reviewer, but I’ll try to describe my feelings as good as possible.[/size]
 
[size=19.0pt]What I like[/size]
[size=13.0pt]I will use these HP’s on the go and at home when don’t want to disturb anyone else. Isolation is thus a big deal for me. I haven’t been able to use the DT1350 on my daily commuting trips – tommorow will be the litmus test on that subject – but a couple of indoor tests seem to indicate that they isolate quite well. The first thing I noticed is the excellent clarity of the Beyers. As I can’t stand a peaky treble or any hint of sibilance I was a bit concerned about this, but it sounds very detailed yet smooth to my ears. Ear fatigue won’t likely be an issue. Voices also sound very clear and realistic, due to the slightly forward presentation. The mids and bass are full and pretty balanced imo. Not perfectly neutral though. I don’t mind that as I am not searching for a 100% neutral HP. I own a Beyer DT 990 too and I’d liked to have a more balanced little brother for it. The DT 1350's tight (with surprisingly strong impact!) bass and dryer presentation complement well with them I feel. Sensitivity is better than I expected too: my Sony X does an admirable job of driving them. At two-thirds of the volume (20/30) one can comfortably listen without having outside noice disturbing you. In my home setup I paired the Beyers up with the 3Move. This has a noticable impact on the soundstage (wider) and there is more ‘slam’ to the lower notes. The industrial build quality of these HP’s is another thing I like about them. The ear cups and headband feel very sturdy and durable.[/size]
 
[size=19.0pt]What I dislike[/size]
[size=13.0pt]As this is my first portable headphone that clamps on the ears I will need some time to get used to this. I can comfortably wear them for about an hour. Some say that the leather ear pads will adjust themselves to the shape of my ears. I can only hope for this to happen. The cable feels nice, although I fear for possible durability issues. Only time will tell if this thin cable is strong enough to survive daily portable use. The straight headphone jack is of great quality, yet I believe that an L-shaped model would have been a lot more practical.[/size]
 
[size=19.0pt]Conclusion[/size]
[size=13.0pt]Beyerdynamic ticks a lot of boxes right with the DT 1350 imo. I really love its sound quality and I applaud the German manufacterer for the impeccable build quality of this product. There are some minor issues too though. Comfort (maybe) being one of them. But it’s probably way too early for me to draw any definitive conclusion on this subject.[/size]
 
[size=13.0pt]Equipment used:[/size]
[size=13.0pt]Mac mini computer[/size]
[size=13.0pt]3Move portable amp[/size]
[size=13.0pt]Sony X1060 DAP[/size]

 

[rovex]

 
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@rovex: they do...be impressed NOW

 
A lot of Germans on here have been praising the DT1350's. As soon as i have the funds will need to grab a pair. Z1000 + DT1350 could prove to be a spectacular portable combo.