[hemtmaker]

I wonder if Tyll got a defective pair: he mentioned the measured distortion level is a bit high on the ether c flow, which contradicts the THD graph listed in the first page of this thread. It is supposed to be similar to the ether flow and lower than the non flows

 

[mysticstryk]

How would I go about getting my original Ether C upgraded to the Ether Flow Open?

 

[MattTCG]

How would I go about getting my original Ether C upgraded to the Ether Flow Open?

 
Look at the right hand side of the page for the upgrade request form.
 
http://mrspeakers.com/ether/

 

[mysticstryk]

Look at the right hand side of the page for the upgrade request form.

http://mrspeakers.com/ether/

Thanks Matt! Was pouring over the storefront and even found the dead pages (unless you had a password) for the actual upgrades via a Google search. Who'd of thought it would be on the actual product page. Apparently not me!

 

[AxelCloris]

  The 430 is one thing i agree with Tyll about lol...damn fine amp,best i ever heard

I agree that it's a killer amp. I've been using the HAD with my ETHER Flow and it's been wonderful. Incredible synergy.

 

[Yoga]

Yeah, 430 HA/HAD is a fantastic amp.

 

[Badas]

Yeah, 430 HA/HAD is a fantastic amp.

It's a fantastic SS amp if you want a SS amp to sound like a tube amp. Tyll keeps calling it his reference amp. In my opinion a reference SS amp should have the best SS can offer. The 430HA doesn't do this. It is rather flawed.
At the time I had it, my tube amp had more treble detail. That is unheard of. A tube amp beating a SS amp in detail. What!
We were using a special test track and certain detail was missing from the 430 HA.
Then we did a speed test. Geez the 430HA was slow and sloppy. It fell apart. The 430HA is primarily designed to sound like a tube amp. If you want a tube amp without the hassle of tubes then it's a good option. I would rather have a SS amp that showed the benefits of SS and a tube amp for when you want to mellow things down. That's what I ended up doing.

At the time we had the 430HA, 230HA, Auralic Taurus, Violectric V281 and Oppo HA-1 we ranked the amps like this (best to worse)

Violectric V281*, 230HA (it's design is not flawed and better than the 430HA), Auralic Taurus (a little cold sounding), 430HA and then the Oppo HA-1 (geez that was bad and miles behind). All amps being runned off one DAC the Auralic Vega.

*tested on the XLR output where it uses 4 amps to drive the headphones. Purely brilliant stuff. The single end is not as good.

 

[Muinarc]

Does the speed test require the ingestion of illicit substances?

 

[Badas]

Does the speed test require the ingestion of illicit substances?

It might have helped the 430HA.

 

[mysticstryk]

At the time I had it, my tube amp had more treble detail. That is unheard of. A tube amp beating a SS amp in detail. What!

Not really. At least, not good tube amps.

 

[Rowethren]

Very interesting... Tyll basically just wrote a mini retraction about the Ether C Flows not making it to the wall of fame:

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/i-made-bad-call-mrspeakers-ether-c-flow-makes-wall-fame

 

[Delayeed]

Very interesting... Tyll basically just wrote a mini retraction about the Ether C Flows not making it to the wall of fame:

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/i-made-bad-call-mrspeakers-ether-c-flow-makes-wall-fame

What? Now the both Ether Cs are up there lol. I think Tyll just wanted to keep his pair 

 

[Bambule]

From my point of view, very good and respectable move from Tyll. He's brave enough to give such an statement. Never saw a reviewer do such a thing

 

[jlbrach]

It's a fantastic SS amp if you want a SS amp to sound like a tube amp. Tyll keeps calling it his reference amp. In my opinion a reference SS amp should have the best SS can offer. The 430HA doesn't do this. It is rather flawed.
At the time I had it, my tube amp had more treble detail. That is unheard of. A tube amp beating a SS amp in detail. What!
We were using a special test track and certain detail was missing from the 430 HA.
Then we did a speed test. Geez the 430HA was slow and sloppy. It fell apart. The 430HA is primarily designed to sound like a tube amp. If you want a tube amp without the hassle of tubes then it's a good option. I would rather have a SS amp that showed the benefits of SS and a tube amp for when you want to mellow things down. That's what I ended up doing.

At the time we had the 430HA, 230HA, Auralic Taurus, Violectric V281 and Oppo HA-1 we ranked the amps like this (best to worse)

Violectric V281*, 230HA (it's design is not flawed and better than the 430HA), Auralic Taurus (a little cold sounding), 430HA and then the Oppo HA-1 (geez that was bad and miles behind). All amps being runned off one DAC the Auralic Vega.

*tested on the XLR output where it uses 4 amps to drive the headphones. Purely brilliant stuff. The single end is not as good.

You are most certainly entitled to your opinion but there are a ton of awards and thrilled owners out there who would disagree....the 430 is one of the very best reviewed products i have ever seen....

 

[jlbrach]

Very interesting... Tyll basically just wrote a mini retraction about the Ether C Flows not making it to the wall of fame:

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/i-made-bad-call-mrspeakers-ether-c-flow-makes-wall-fame

I think Tyll also erred when it came to the LCD-4 which I find to be the best HP I have ever heard.....oh well