Meet the Sennheiser HD 660 S
Dec 19, 2017 at 10:12 AM Post #286 of 396
............... we look forward to your HD 660 S impressions.........

Got a sneaking suspicion that they'll sit quite comfortably between these two. :)
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Dec 19, 2017 at 10:58 AM Post #287 of 396
With the likes of hd700, he560, AQ nighthawk coming down in price, hd660S at $500 has its work cut out.
 
Dec 19, 2017 at 12:13 PM Post #288 of 396
With the likes of hd700, he560, AQ nighthawk coming down in price, hd660S at $500 has its work cut out.

Still .. if one saves up $1.50 a day for one year...done...$3 a day, 6 months, $6 a day 3 months, $12 a day 6 weeks........forget your rent and don't eat....bingo... : )
 
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Dec 19, 2017 at 12:33 PM Post #289 of 396
With the likes of hd700, he560, AQ nighthawk coming down in price, hd660S at $500 has its work cut out.
So what....Surely it easily matchs those headphones. Its main problem is Its very old brother the far cheaper HD600

(EDIT and unfashionable professional headphones likes the beyer DT150 at one quarter of the price. Open your eyes and ears the newest is not necessarily best!?!)

Trusted Reviews have just.. err..reviewed the 660. They rate it highly
 
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Dec 20, 2017 at 5:02 PM Post #291 of 396
Just a brief post to say that after some more hours of burn-in, I'm continually appreciating the HD 660 S in a beautiful way!

Relative to the rest of the HD series I have, the HD 660 S so ticks the box of increased bass that I felt was lacking with the HD 600 and HD 800 - two of my all-time favourite headphones so far - and I'm really enjoying the process of listening with it. The HD 660 S is currently a key component in my ongoing exponential increase of enjoying and savouring recorded music and I'm very thankful to Sennheiser for creating it! :)
 
Dec 21, 2017 at 12:57 AM Post #296 of 396
If we are dealing with a device made to recreate recorded sound waves, vibrations, it makes total sense that one pair should suffice as the system doesn’t care if you’re replaying guitar and drum solos, a full symphony orchestra or crickets chirping on the Sierra but this whole hobby IMHO has become overly romanticized and manufacturers are more than willing to comply.

I’m sort of like pietcux…my music spans quite a few gauntlets so in one sitting I could be listening to a string quartet from György Ligeti, throw on some nice German Opera by Rammstein : ), followed up by Feist, jazz with Anthony Braxton…and chill out with the Infected Mushrooms and the Chemical Brothers…and later on watch a movie.

To look at it another way....when I was monitoring my recordings in the studio it would have been considered ludicrous to change headphones for different types of music...

I disagree with this point of view, headphones remind me of live music venues and anyone who's been to a lot of concerts at different types of venues can attest to just how much acoustics and tonality and intimacy and spaciousness can factor in to seeing live music, the arena sound, the festival sound, the concert hall with brilliant intimacy and acoustics. I saw Joanna Newsom at the Melbourne Recital Centre and she was incredible, she would have sounded awful at Melbourne (my city's) Festival Hall. But there's no way a loud band like The War On Drugs or even The National would work at the Recital Centre, the acoustics would have reflected way too much noise.

That's probably the one major advantage of this hobby when compared to a lifestyle I came from happily listening to one good stereo system. Engineers get the chance to be creative with so many more variables to play with, they get to be architects as well as engineers, erect buildings for noise. I've concluded that the nature of headphones prevents them from ever getting to the fidelity and versatility of stereo systems but its the variety that makes up for it.
 
Dec 21, 2017 at 7:58 AM Post #298 of 396
I disagree with this point of view, headphones remind me of live music venues ..........

I'm not too sure how you disagree or maybe misunderstood ..... but this is exactly what I'm trying to convey...which is that the headphone should relay to me the distinct differences between venues...as a listener the difference between Newsom's performances or anyone else (if properly recorded of course) at the Melbourne Recital Centre or Melbourne (my city's) Festival Hall should be quite distinctive.

The point I would have to disagree with is "headphones remind me of live music venues"... a properly set up speaker system possibly yes......headphones...hhhhhmmmm??
 
Dec 21, 2017 at 9:15 AM Post #299 of 396
I'm not too sure how you disagree or maybe misunderstood ..... but this is exactly what I'm trying to convey...which is that the headphone should relay to me the distinct differences between venues...as a listener the difference between Newsom's performances or anyone else (if properly recorded of course) at the Melbourne Recital Centre or Melbourne (my city's) Festival Hall should be quite distinctive.

The point I would have to disagree with is "headphones remind me of live music venues"... a properly set up speaker system possibly yes......headphones...hhhhhmmmm??

I mean, "If we are dealing with a device made to recreate recorded sound waves, vibrations, it makes total sense that one pair should suffice as the system doesn’t care if you’re replaying guitar and drum solos", I've owned various stereo set-ups in my home and car and never thought one was better for one genre or another, the best I owned would probably only be one I would want to replace with something of a higher quality across the board, which is what I think you're saying is the same case for headphones. In my opinion, with speaker set-ups its the environment that changes audio qualities. The same speaker set-up will sound different (and probably be in a different configuration) in a pub than say a concert hall or church and those differences might just mean that certain types of venue suit certain genres.

I feel somewhat the same way with headphones. For example, when I purchased the Z1R I knew they were controversial because of frequency response measurements and sonic imperfections but I bought them anyway because of some of the sonic properties that go beyond basic measurements that sounded really appealing in particular in the low-end. I like them because of their musicality and I think a lot of that comes from the acoustics of the large drivers and their unique housing. A benchmark 2017 album for me has been The xx's "I See You" and the way the mid-bass resonates sounds magical. Then I listen to a louder more aggressive 2017 album The War on Drugs "A Deeper Understanding" and that resonance starts to become overbearing and drowns out the vocals a little. Then I switched to the HD-6XX and missed the bass resonance for "I See You" and corrected the bloat on "A Deeper Understanding".

I've never thought to myself "I need to switch stereos now that I am changing genres" but much like with the experiences with idiosyncrasies in headphones from drivers and their housing, I have certainly thought "This band sounded way better in the pub than at a stadium", and vice-versa.
 
Dec 21, 2017 at 9:19 AM Post #300 of 396
I'm not too sure how you disagree or maybe misunderstood ..... but this is exactly what I'm trying to convey...which is that the headphone should relay to me the distinct differences between venues...as a listener the difference between Newsom's performances or anyone else (if properly recorded of course) at the Melbourne Recital Centre or Melbourne (my city's) Festival Hall should be quite distinctive.

The point I would have to disagree with is "headphones remind me of live music venues"... a properly set up speaker system possibly yes......headphones...hhhhhmmmm??

To be clear, the point I am disagreeing about is that one pair of headphones should suffice for all genres of music.
 

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