[hakuzen]

i'm going to try this instead: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000097502378.html
4 cores, 23 AWG, 4N OFC copper, litz structure. i prefer it to 16 cores version.
edit: this will be cable 090 in my list.




and the Frozen 7N Single Crystal copper version from electro acousti.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000227749190.html
edit: this will be cable 198 in my list.




i've found some cables lately that use this kind of litz geometry: groups of twisted strands which are twisted between them.
to be full litz, guess the strands have to be enameled individually, like cable 192 (edit: = 6N up-occ litz, not frozen, heavily enameled, the softest and most flexible, superb price of the raw wire..).
saw a cable recently (from a boutique shop) where shielding was covering each group of strands uniquely, not the individual strands.
satin audio provides accurate description of their litz cables structure: from litz 1 to litz 4.

 

[hakuzen]

btw, i've updated the info about cable 194, after getting more info about its composition.
very special wire, from the US, not up-occ. it does contain 7N single crystal copper copper, like i figured after noticing the bass extension and rumble, and pure 5N sterling silver. wide extension also at highs due to flat silver ribbon. very interesting.

194. eac 5n ag & 7n occ cu frz 2x2c (silver,eagle,MV): 218..220..99..109 mΩ..[25.1g]..170..166 pF..[120cm]
core OD: 1.65mm. outer diameter: 4mm. length from splitter: 40cm.
5n sterling silver ribbon (65%), 7n occ copper, "double-layer freezing treatment", from the US.
electro acousti shop.
don't know its structure, but it looks like there is an inner conductor, some kind of insulation, and then a layer of braided ribbon (flat wire) of pure silver. so 2 conductors inside each core.
don't know the sleeve material, but guess it's PVC or even teflon, because the wire is stiff and springy, harder than PE sheath.
this topology is different to any other wire i've seen, and the sound you get when using it is also unique. very interesting.

resistance is amazing, very low, for such thickness (specially the ground/negative conductors).
inner conductor is used for one signal, and the braid silver layer for the other.
i was expecting that highs perception would be improved by using flat silver wire. and they are indeed, but the rumble of lows is also remarkable, unexpected from this frozen silver wire (maybe round copper inside?).
edit: yes, description update confirmed it uses copper as well, which explains the bass rumble.
so extension is huge at both sides.
soundstage is wide, and bigger overall than any other cables, but up-occ. same for background noise.
very good sound overall. i have to listen and do more AB to further compare it with up-occ wires.

links:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000146981622.html

 

[Dorokun]

Are there any good cables like https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33030782005.html that has a 3.5 mm plug and 0.78 mm 2 pins connectors? My budget is around 10-20$

 

[progdvd]

Are there any good cables like https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33030782005.html that has a 3.5 mm plug and 0.78 mm 2 pins connectors? My budget is around 10-20$

I bought the same but 8 core version for my Blon, I didn't wanted extra weight of 16 cores. You can't go wrong with Nicehck.
When I heard how great Blon is now I figure I should have gone with this one:
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32945688424.html

 

[fokta]

Local made, 4 core 22 AWG high purity OCC Copper.



compare to ARES II Plus... hmm dark backgrounds and seperation still ARES, since it is Litz...

Bass texture almost the same...
The only Positive, it costs 1/4 from ARES...
well, we are getting there....

 

[rurika]

Just bought another 4.4mm to 4.4mm for an upcoming amp.
I have 8 cores 171 and 175 cables so I ordered the same 4.4mm cables to match my IEM cables.
They ship very fast ... just one day after I ordered the cables.

 

[iamkn]

Are there any good cables like https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33030782005.html that has a 3.5 mm plug and 0.78 mm 2 pins connectors? My budget is around 10-20$

With your budget, I believe this is the most bang for the buck cable that you could get as of now, according to the cable list which Hakuzen has kindly created: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/resistance-of-cables-pics-comments-and-links.907998/

 

[Dorokun]

I see, in that case is the 2 pin connectors on the cable I linked is 0.78 mm? It doesn't say anything about the 2 pin connectors' size in the product page. Could anyone confirm what's the 2 pin connector size?

 

[iamkn]

I see, in that case is the 2 pin connectors on the cable I linked is 0.78 mm? It doesn't say anything about the 2 pin connectors' size in the product page. Could anyone confirm what's the 2 pin connector size?

You could ask the seller directly; they might have both 0.75mm and 0.78mm. If they have confirmed this, you probably have to indicate 2pin 0.78mm specifically in your order.

 

[Dorokun]

You could ask the seller directly; they might have both 0.75mm and 0.78mm. If they have confirmed this, you probably have to indicate 2pin 0.78mm specifically in your order.

Ahh, somehow that didn't cross my mind. I have asked the seller about this. If they do have 0.78 mm connectors, I'll go ahead and buy it, thanks!

 

[bobbooo]

Ahh, somehow that didn't cross my mind. I have asked the seller about this. If they do have 0.78 mm connectors, I'll go ahead and buy it, thanks!

I'd be interested in the answer to this if you could post the seller's reply here? I did buy this cable and it fits and works on my 0.78mm IEM sockets, but is not quite as tight-fitting as my stock cable, so now I'm wondering if the pins on this NiceHCK cable are in fact 0.75mm...

 

[bogginhead]

Have you guys ever purchased a cable from either Ali Express or Amazon that came looking a little different than the pictured cable? I recently purchased a cable thru Amazon that was like this. As far as I can tell it's the same wire, but the connectors and 2.5mm TRRS were a different color. I did ask the seller and they confirmed it was the same cable, but I wanted to ask you guys as well.

 

[katatonicone1]

@hakuzen
Would you take, I think, your favorite cable in 4 core version in 80$ budget or would you suggest something else ?

US $82 | UP-OCC COPPER litz structure 4Core Upgraded Copper Cable litz 3.5/2.5/4.4mm Earphone Cable MMCX 2PIN https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/qpbt50p6

 

[superuser1]

@hakuzen
Would you take, I think, your favorite cable in 4 core version in 80$ budget or would you suggest something else ?

US $82 | UP-OCC COPPER litz structure 4Core Upgraded Copper Cable litz 3.5/2.5/4.4mm Earphone Cable MMCX 2PIN https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/qpbt50p6

I think that would depend on what iem you would be using it on!

 

[katatonicone1]

I think that would depend on what iem you would be using it on!

True. I am thinking about Audiosense T800 paired with Fioo M11 and iBasso DC01 for my mobile.