Oct 11, 2013 at 1:53 AM Post #751 of 963
The consensus seems to be this:

If under iOS 6, a USB DAC worked with an iPad using an appropriate set of adapters -- either 30-pin CCK, Lightning-to-USB adapter, or either combined with particular powered or unpowered USB hub -- then with some limited exceptions, it now works with an iPhone and (presumably) an iPod Touch under iOS 7.  Basically, the capability that was limited to iPads now applies to iPhones and iPod Touches that can load the latest iOS.  

The need for MFi is still there for iPhones/iPods when using a standard 30-pin or Lightning cable.  Also, certain DACs still need a powered hub or some such hub "trickery" to work.  One example is the Fiio E17, which I've gotten to work on both an iPhone 4 and an iPhone 5c running iOS 7 with the CCK or Lightning-to-USB and a particular hub I have.  And some DAC manufacturers have reduced their current draw to allow the CCK to work without a powered hub, like HRT, which now works with iPhones, iPads, and (presumably) iPod Touches, all on the latest OS.  


Great summary.
 
Oct 11, 2013 at 10:39 AM Post #752 of 963
  The need for MFi is still there for iPhones/iPods when using a standard 30-pin or Lightning cable.  Also, certain DACs still need a powered hub or some such hub "trickery" to work.  One example is the Fiio E17, which I've gotten to work on both an iPhone 4 and an iPhone 5c running iOS 7 with the CCK or Lightning-to-USB and a particular hub I have.  And some DAC manufacturers have reduced their current draw to allow the CCK to work without a powered hub, like HRT, which now works with iPhones, iPads, and (presumably) iPod Touches, all on the latest OS.  

Of course, CCK or Lightning to USB is a lot cheaper than an MFi DAC 
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Oct 15, 2013 at 6:22 AM Post #753 of 963
Check out these two tweets from Mark :-

https://twitter.com/resonessence/status/383709607559852032
https://twitter.com/resonessence/status/383611513988059136

Looks like it works with the iPad with CCK on iOS6. Crossing fingers it works with iOS7.

 
And a confirmation that the iPad CCK works with the Herus on IOS 6.1.2. I've not upgraded my iPad yet. This is the iPad 3 :-
 

 
Oct 15, 2013 at 8:49 PM Post #755 of 963
Borrow iDevice on iOS 7? Or go to Apple store for the team?
Their accessories dept is not next to their iPad section so unfortunately can't demo this at the store. Unfortunately I don't have any Lightning supported h/w therefore no accessories either. In addition I think the Apple staff will freak out when I plug a device without the "Made for iPad" stamp on it ;).
 
Oct 16, 2013 at 6:10 PM Post #756 of 963
Their accessories dept is not next to their iPad section so unfortunately can't demo this at the store. Unfortunately I don't have any Lightning supported h/w therefore no accessories either. In addition I think the Apple staff will freak out when I plug a device without the "Made for iPad" stamp on it ;).

I'd test for you, but I don't have a CCK or external DAC to test with my iPhone 5S.

I dunno what the official policy is... Dock connector stuff could be different, but people plug in their own headphones to iDevices all the time at our local store. I'll ask... they might ask back "why would you plug in an external DAC?" (none at my store are audio buffs like me), but I'll just see if they would mind trying :)
 
Oct 16, 2013 at 8:13 PM Post #757 of 963
Yes, if by CCK you mean the new Lightning version. And you might need a USB hub between the CCK and the DAC.


Pico DAC works with lightning CCK on iPhone 5s or the iPad mini with iOS 7, without the need for a powered hub. The upsampling DAC does a great job of jitter rejection with the CCK, and is an excellent choice.

[edit - tried this with my son's iPhone 5 and CCK still works with Pico DAC when using iOS 7 and no powered hub is needed.]
 
Oct 16, 2013 at 8:36 PM Post #758 of 963
I'd test for you, but I don't have a CCK or external DAC to test with my iPhone 5S.

I dunno what the official policy is... Dock connector stuff could be different, but people plug in their own headphones to iDevices all the time at our local store. I'll ask... they might ask back "why would you plug in an external DAC?" (none at my store are audio buffs like me), but I'll just see if they would mind trying :)


At my local Apple store, I did just such a test.
I brought a Lightning to USB adapter, USB cable, DAC/amp, and IEMs. The employees there were cool with it. You should ask just to be sure there is no anti theft issue going on. Don't want to set of an inadvertant alarm.
 
Oct 16, 2013 at 10:28 PM Post #759 of 963
At my local Apple store, I did just such a test.
I brought a Lightning to USB adapter, USB cable, DAC/amp, and IEMs. The employees there were cool with it. You should ask just to be sure there is no anti theft issue going on. Don't want to set of an inadvertant alarm.

Still, haven't picked a DAC, or been entirely convinced of substantial improvement. Suggestions?
 
Oct 21, 2013 at 7:03 AM Post #760 of 963
Hey guys!

Will the FiiO E07K's DAC work with the iPad2 running iOS7 with the CCK [Camera Connection Kit]? If it does, I will just cancel my order for L9 xD

Thanks in advance, oh and I love whoever founded this genius solution! :D
Billson
 
Oct 24, 2013 at 9:47 AM Post #763 of 963
Can anybody confirm whether the Leckerton UHA-6sII works with the iPhone5 and iPad4 (running IOS 7.0.2) via CCK? Do you you need a USB Hub in between?

Sorry if it's already been covered elsewhere in this thread.
 
Oct 24, 2013 at 7:08 PM Post #765 of 963
With the traditional 30-pin you need the CCK. With the new 9-pin you need the Lightning to USB Camera Adaptor. I think it comes in two versions, one with a cable and one without. But they work the same way.


Thanks! How I wish it works with iPhone 4 and the original version xD I think I might as well go for the CCK instead of LOD?
 

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