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Jul 28, 2019 at 3:39 PM Post #46,201 of 63,836
I might try C18...though I like C16 well enough


PhonoPhi said:
According to @1clearhead, who talked about C20 here, CCA's plan will be C12 about now and C18 in some near future ...

I would have loved to see C20 happen, may try other IEMs instead.
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Jul 28, 2019 at 3:42 PM Post #46,202 of 63,836
I like C16 pretty well...was hoping C20 was a little better...right now ZS7/ZS10 Pro is my favorite budget offering...

I don’t have any BT earphones so I’m curious about them...I know it’s not an adapter...3 hrs seems kind of crappy though...



igorneumann said:
No idea, but Im not excited a bit about it, the As16 reviews arent that good (the AS12 looks to be better) and I think the ever increasing BA count is having the expected result in the price but not in the sound.

They are selling specs and at the same time entering in a pricepoint that just have better options around (some single driver, such as the Kanas Pro).

KZ is king of the lower end and that quite a feat on itself, maybe in some years they will also be awesome in the high end, but I wouldnt hold my breath on its 1st models.



Thats a tws earphome, not an adapter, you xant plug it in other devices... That said, KZ wasnt able to mando facture a single good BT adapter yet.
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Jul 28, 2019 at 4:38 PM Post #46,203 of 63,836
Jul 28, 2019 at 4:47 PM Post #46,204 of 63,836
They sound the same ... Unless they are broken. I have then yinoo 8 core and kbear 16 core.
 
Jul 28, 2019 at 4:48 PM Post #46,205 of 63,836
I agree I like the 8 better, I’ve got it on my TF10 custom...16 is too big except home use so not my cup of tea...

LaughMoreDaily said:
Is the 16 core sound just more lively than the 8 core version? I've heard reports that the 8 core sounds better and it's cheaper.
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Jul 28, 2019 at 4:55 PM Post #46,206 of 63,836
billbishere said:
They sound the same ... Unless they are broken. I have then yinoo 8 core and kbear 16 core.
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If a 16 core and 8 core sound the same then it's always best to buy the cheapest option...

I don't understand why the 16 core doesn't sound better or is it just the NiceHCK model that sounds the same?
 
Jul 28, 2019 at 5:08 PM Post #46,207 of 63,836
LaughMoreDaily said:
Is the 16 core sound just more lively than the 8 core version? I've heard reports that the 8 core sounds better and it's cheaper.
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It's more about comfort for me. Thicker cable is more comfortable and less tangled. This cable sounds bassier and with tammed treble, For some KZ's its OK.
 
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Jul 28, 2019 at 5:51 PM Post #46,208 of 63,836
LaughMoreDaily said:
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I don't understand why the 16 core doesn't sound better or is it just the NiceHCK model that sounds the same?
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There are different thicknesses of the cores, so 4-core can be thicker and more conductive than 8- and 16-cores.

Cables are for the comfort (and nice look for me).

For those who thinks that there are differences there are always blind tests and proper scientific measurements to convincingly demonstrate the difference.
Since we do not see those demonstrations - everyone can make their own conclusions.

P. S. At the same time, it is really great that there are different cables (and nice databases, such as made by @hakuzen ), so everyone can chose their level of enjoyment with the cables. :)
 
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Jul 28, 2019 at 10:41 PM Post #46,209 of 63,836
KimChee said:
I like C16 pretty well...was hoping C20 was a little better...right now ZS7/ZS10 Pro is my favorite budget offering...

I don’t have any BT earphones so I’m curious about them...I know it’s not an adapter...3 hrs seems kind of ****ty though...
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I'm with you on the ZS10 PRO! Absolutely love those iems, and find myself listening to them most often. I'm tempted to buy myself another set with a blue faceplate and the blue housing...just cause I think they would look cool and sound great. No regrets about the ZS10 PRO at all. I'm giving away another brand new set in the silver faceplate and black body, to someone in my family at Christmas. If I decide to get the blueface on blue body, that will make 3 sets I've purchased of the same model. I've never done anything like this before. Maybe I'm going crazy in my old age...or the ZS10 PRO is JUST THAT DAMN GOOD!.
 
Jul 29, 2019 at 2:32 AM Post #46,211 of 63,836
PhonoPhi said:
There are different thicknesses of the cores, so 4-core can be thicker and more conductive than 8- and 16-cores.

Cables are for the comfort (and nice look for me).

For those who thinks that there are differences there are always blind tests and proper scientific measurements to convincingly demonstrate the difference.
Since we do not see those demonstrations - everyone can make their own conclusions.

P. S. At the same time, it is really great that there are different cables (and nice databases, such as made by @hakuzen ), so everyone can chose their level of enjoyment with the cables. :)
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I'm not sure, but what I can hear, one of the main defference between cables is at the soundstage. For example with silver cable, instruments are almost in my head, while with copper cable they are further. It's probably hard to measure that.
 
Jul 29, 2019 at 4:47 AM Post #46,212 of 63,836
hakuzen said:
if your budget is below $10, yesss
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Hi. I'm assuming this is the cable 064, right? Sorry for digging out such an old post, but I couldn't find a pic nor a link.

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https://bit.ly/2GxSZ5A
 
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