Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread
Jul 29, 2019 at 5:21 PM Post #46,231 of 63,966
ZS10 Pro Blue Plate Special!
First I’ve seen them....they will be mine!
I’m waiting on a 16 core NiceHCK cable (pictured a few posts back) for my A10s first, then I’ll try other iems. I love the 8 core version on my NiceHCK Emerald Green M6s!
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Offtopic: I’m getting a pair of the Audiosense T800’s soon, I’m currently using my C16s a-lot, and 8 Knowles drivers may just be the ticket for me.
My Tin Hifi T3’s were my biggest surprise awesome sounding IEMs that I buy blindly. The A10s, 10 Pros, C16’s all would be a fine stopping point as far as I’m concerned but ..... I’m weak...lol.... I’d love to hear the 24 driver iems I see on AliExpress. Has anyone heard them...I forget who makes them....
I’m approaching 1000 posts....wow!
Enjoy the music!
 
Jul 29, 2019 at 5:26 PM Post #46,232 of 63,966
ZS10 Pro Blue Plate Special!
First I’ve seen them....they will be mine!
I’m waiting on a 16 core NiceHCK cable (pictured a few posts back) for my A10s first, then I’ll try other iems. I love the 8 core version on my NiceHCK Emerald Green M6s!


Offtopic: I’m getting a pair of the Audiosense T800’s soon, I’m currently using my C16s a-lot, and 8 Knowles drivers may just be the ticket for me.
My Tin Hifi T3’s were my biggest surprise awesome sounding IEMs that I buy blindly. The A10s, 10 Pros, C16’s all would be a fine stopping point as far as I’m concerned but ..... I’m weak...lol.... I’d love to hear the 24 driver iems I see on AliExpress. Has anyone heard them...I forget who makes them....
I’m approaching 1000 posts....wow!
Enjoy the music!
C16 sound like a broken radio compared to T800
 
Jul 29, 2019 at 5:51 PM Post #46,233 of 63,966
How do you manage 9 Ohm of T800? (Most of the sources are not designed to handle such low impedance. That exacerbates that "no crossovers" may be a good idea but of a limited practicality, IMHO).
 
Jul 29, 2019 at 5:56 PM Post #46,234 of 63,966
How do you manage 9 Ohm of T800? (Most of the sources are not designed to handle such low impedance. That exacerbates that "no crossovers" may be a good idea but of a limited practicality, IMHO).
what do you mean manage, i use them with my dac and there is no problem at all, no hiss, for other sources i cant comment, i use them only as a desktop solution
 
Jul 29, 2019 at 6:09 PM Post #46,235 of 63,966
My two fav budget iems with cable 130...KZ ZS7 and CCA C16
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Jul 29, 2019 at 6:24 PM Post #46,236 of 63,966
what do you mean manage, i use them with my dac and there is no problem at all, no hiss, for other sources i cant comment, i use them only as a desktop solution
What I mean are your DAC/sources rated to power 9-Ohm IEM?
Most are not.
Just to take a random example (to be specific in what I mean): for Fiio M11, they quote "recommended headphone impedance" as "16~150Ω".
 
Jul 29, 2019 at 6:44 PM Post #46,237 of 63,966
What I mean are your DAC/sources rated to power 9-Ohm IEM?
Most are not.
Just to take a random example (to be specific in what I mean): for Fiio M11, they quote "recommended headphone impedance" as "16~150Ω".
is not rated, the lowest impedance on the specs is 16ohms, but i run them balanced and never get past 8 (out of 37) on the volume so there is no problem
 
Jul 29, 2019 at 7:01 PM Post #46,238 of 63,966
is not rated, the lowest impedance on the specs is 16ohms, but i run them balanced and never get past 8 (out of 37) on the volume so there is no problem

The problem is not for the IEM but for the source.
9 is about between 0 and 16.
Using "0" is directly short cutting your source.
What I mean is that trying to draw currents about twice as high, as the source is designed for, may cause problems for the circuitry of the source.
 
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Jul 29, 2019 at 7:28 PM Post #46,239 of 63,966
How do you manage 9 Ohm of T800? (Most of the sources are not designed to handle such low impedance. That exacerbates that "no crossovers" may be a good idea but of a limited practicality, IMHO).
I know Audiosense quoted the T800 at 9 ohms but I take that with a grain of salt. For starters, they quote that for DC, which is not what others are normally quoted at. Secondly, I am driving the T800 from my S10+ which has an OI of around 2.5ohm and the T800 sound great with that.
So I seriously doubt the T800 is 9ohms at 1kHz.....
 
Jul 29, 2019 at 8:17 PM Post #46,240 of 63,966
I know Audiosense quoted the T800 at 9 ohms but I take that with a grain of salt. For starters, they quote that for DC, which is not what others are normally quoted at. Secondly, I am driving the T800 from my S10+ which has an OI of around 2.5ohm and the T800 sound great with that.
So I seriously doubt the T800 is 9ohms at 1kHz.....
If T800 impedance would be higher at 1 kHz, this value would be used in the specs. Power consumption of BAs is higher close to the frequencies where they do their job (make sound).

Apart of directly damaging the source (which may not be likely since most should have some protection against accidental shortcuts), the question is how distorted would be such non-optimal functioning.
 
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Jul 29, 2019 at 10:08 PM Post #46,241 of 63,966
If T800 impedance would be higher at 1 kHz, this value would be used in the specs. Power consumption of BAs is higher close to the frequencies where they do their job (make sound).

Apart of directly damaging the source (which may not be likely since most should have some protection against accidental shortcuts), the question is how distorted would be such non-optimal functioning.
Certainly, one could hear when their source is distorting, or on the verge of doing so.
 
Jul 29, 2019 at 10:40 PM Post #46,243 of 63,966
Jul 30, 2019 at 4:14 AM Post #46,244 of 63,966
Hi. I have ZS10 Pros. My dog just jumped on me and now I've lost sound on one side. I think he snapped something inside because when I move it around it cuts in and out.

Can anyone point me in the direction of a replacement cable? I tried searching but they seem slightly different. I need the mic cable as that's what I usee out and about. Only ones I can find have the black connectors near the shell instead of clear. Can anyone pull up the cable or recommend something better (with cable)?
 
Jul 30, 2019 at 4:27 AM Post #46,245 of 63,966
Hi. I have ZS10 Pros. My dog just jumped on me and now I've lost sound on one side. I think he snapped something inside because when I move it around it cuts in and out.

Can anyone point me in the direction of a replacement cable? I tried searching but they seem slightly different. I need the mic cable as that's what I usee out and about. Only ones I can find have the black connectors near the shell instead of clear. Can anyone pull up the cable or recommend something better (with cable)?

This cable will be fine for you and it is super cheap as well. Select the type C with mic.

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/blK5Awrq
 
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